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The Nasty Labour Party - what they really stand for.

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Day6 Fri 28-Sept-18 21:36:21

Rod Liddle took Labour to the cleaners on Question Time. I fully agree with his assessment.

“I really wish that the people who were taken in by [Labour] and agreed with that, would look to the left beyond the podium and see the rabble with their Palestinian flags and their lanyards sponsored by Hamas, would look to the raft of hypocrites on the Labour front bench. Thornberry, Abbott, Chakrabarti – all of whom don’t want you to send your kids to private schools or selective schools but do so for their kids, and for Corbyn and McDonnell, who have given support and succour to every possible hostile, violent, anti-democratic terrorist regime or organisation they can. IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela.

If you want people like that running your country, vote for Corbyn.”

MawBroon Sun 07-Oct-18 11:01:26

“Being”

trisher Sun 07-Oct-18 11:05:35

You win MaizieD ! grin

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Oct-18 11:10:28

Thanks Iam64, yes, Grandad's post was unpleasant but quite astonishing and absolutely ridiculous too.
And I was five when Ernest Bevin died. I am sure he was very earnest too.

I didn't even have a flag until 1953 - a Union Jack to wave on Coronation Day. grin

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 11:11:57

“Maybe get some real information before spouting off”

This was a reply to the OP

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 11:14:27

Waving back to Iam.

trisher, “ you win Maizie” ? win what?

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Oct-18 11:18:06

Spelling Bee?

trisher Sun 07-Oct-18 11:28:32

Snap Annie it's a game you know.

lemongrove Sun 07-Oct-18 11:37:33

I think it’s either one upmanship Annie or a blind refusal to see unpleasant posts from other left wing posters.hmm

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 12:01:14

If I want to play a game then scrabble for me .

Refusal to admit lemon

MaizieD Sun 07-Oct-18 12:13:00

Hypocrites,liars and supporters of dodgy regimes? Sure we're not talking TORY ? Look at the tories in depth and find out the people they have supported in the past .Anyone who believes the treatment of the Palestinians is right is no better than the Nazi's .Well we know the Tories are right of Attila the Hun sh thats about right ! I'm NOT a labour supporter but really the hypocrisy of tories telling us how awful ANYONE else is is hard to accept.Just listen to that wonderful "christian" woman Mrs May who has destroyed the lives of the poor ,the sick the elderly and vulnerable...who has MORE children in poverty and more suicides and deaths of people due to DWP and then there's the DUP ,what can one say!!! Maybe get some REAL information about hypocrisy before spouting off about the opposition when your own bunch of charlatans could win prizes for it .

Paddyann's post (just to save flicking backwards and forwards)

How can it possibly be a response to the OP? The OP didn't spout off about anything. Just posted the Liddle stuff, said she agreed with it, and more or less left it there

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 12:18:34

So it wasn’t a response to the OP? Wrong thread ?

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Oct-18 12:53:19

Possibly, especially as the poster says she is not a Labour supporter.
But we knew that anyway.

The OP was not a pro-Tory rant by the OP or in any way encouraging people to vote Tory; it was just a reference to what a journalist said on QT, all of which could be checked out in fact, if not already common knowledge. It could have been taken further and discussed rationally but the first post did not do that.

MaizieD Sun 07-Oct-18 13:22:11

^ It could have been taken further and discussed rationally but the first post did not do that.^

That's as maybe but Paddyann did not attack anyone personally and did not deserve to be personally attacked in subsequent posts.

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 13:40:06

Saying someone is spouting is attacking

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 13:45:32

So Paddyann was replying to Rod Liddle ?

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Oct-18 14:11:27

I think it was a case of "Whataboutery"

Surprising what you learn on GN

Jalima1108 Sun 07-Oct-18 14:13:02

Maybe get some REAL information about hypocrisy before spouting off about the opposition when your own bunch of charlatans could win prizes for it
Yes, it sounds as if paddyann was responding to Rod Liddle. I wonder if he read her post?

ROD - are you listening?

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 14:37:49

Liddle use to be a speech writer and researcher for the Labour Party, he is a party member , suspended

NatashaGransnet (GNHQ) Sun 07-Oct-18 14:51:29

Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder to please refrain from personal insults. It'd be great to get the discussion back on track.smile

jura2 Sun 07-Oct-18 15:27:12

hear, hear Natasha. I respect the decision from GN to be really hands off with moderating - and yet- when a conversation starts with such an unpleasant title, and the word 'nasty' aimed at a group of people- it is not easy to keep it friendly- as it has started all wrong from the beginning.

jura2 Sun 07-Oct-18 15:28:06

On the one and only other Forum I am on - a friendly mod would have sent a pm saying 'title changed to avoid getting on the wrong foot' or similar.

lemongrove Sun 07-Oct-18 16:55:46

So, that’s you told, Natasha grin
In fact jura if a mod changed the title then that would be Big Brother style ( 1984, not the gormless tv show.)

Iam64 Sun 07-Oct-18 17:07:55

Oh dear - reading so quickly I got my Bevan's mixed up
Apologies. No apologies though for commenting on the rather unpleasant comments to Jalima.

Anniebach Sun 07-Oct-18 17:32:10

jura, you want the title ‘The Nasty Young Conservatives ‘ change ?

jura2 Sun 07-Oct-18 17:33:29

Yes