Breakaway Labour MP’s

You have to cost these policies though and not Dianne Abbott style.

Look the right to buy is popular. Back in the day my parents and my in-laws brought their council houses. They wanted to get up the ladder not be content with living in their state owned houses.

Aspiration is not a dirty work! They voted for Maggie after always being labour because of foot.

Now they will vote Tory because of Corbyn. No one sensible thinks he can deliver on all those promises.

Working clsss people don’t want to be patronised into accepting their staation by champagne socialists or do they want the humiliation of food banks offered by the Tories.

We need better.

ask Mrs May Annie she's the one who knows where it is....as long as its used for her own gain

Trouble is take the nhs! It’s not feasible to keep going into the future without proper funding. We no longer live in 1945.

No politician is brave enough to say we need to massively overhaul it and have integrated social care and you will all have to pay more taxes. Not just the bankers!! Yawn!! Everyone.

Bringing back the trains under state control sounds great but it will cost millions to buy those franchises and if you remember the 70s they were no golden age for state controls. Ditto PFI for schools.

You need more than ‘let’s reverse tax cuts for the rich’ to win an election.

Perhaps we could stop subsidising Grouse shooting and subsidise education instead? Oooh what a left wing thought!!
The amount you are now paying for her wealthy mates ‘sport’ has risen from £45m to £84m
The number of people I know who left school at 15 but managed thanks to grants to go to university in the 80s is huge. It changed their lives. I don't see why others shouldn't have the same rights to education (and all this we can't afford it is a load of tosh but it has been the best political brainwash ever)

Mycatisahacker the franchises are limited times. They will run out. Meantime of course you are as a taxpayer subsidising private enterprise (but don't let that worry you)

university for all through life ?

Why not? Wasn't that the original purpose of the OU started i believe by a Labour government?

Indeed, aspiration is not a dirty word! Wanting life long learning is a good aspiration and will enable people to change jobs, therefore contributing to the economy.
Keeping people's brains active should mean less demand for social services.

Educating a population saves money, it is an investment.

Yes, right to buy is popular, but having a greater stock of social housing with low rents enables people to save for a deposit to buy a house at market price, not subsidised by the people who had paid for those houses to be built.

Bringing railways into state control means waiting for the franchises to expire, not buying them back.

PFI for schools has left us with enormous debts to pay to these companies, and enormous costs for even small repairs to the fabric of the buildings. PFIs have been a disaster, and even the Conservatives have seen the sense of putting a stop to them.

As for this magic money tree, ask the DUP where theirs came from.

Yes Rowantree you certainly are in the minority ( liking Corbyn) on here and anywhere else outside Islington and any hotbeds of far left activists.
Under his leadership ( if you can call him a Leader!) all the reds have crept out from under the beds and what a horrible lot they are, as are all the anti-semites, they have had a glorious unchecked time of it.Now Hatton is back, what more could they wish for?

Corbyn is reponsible for keeping the Conservatives in power, and maybe for a long time yet.

lemon there is still Corbyn’s mate George Galloway

So no longer a Labour Party member , if I stayed I would be supporting anti semetism and bullying. I cannot do this,

So sorry to hear this "Annie". I know you are Labour through and through, just as my dear Dad was. You must have quit with a heavy heart, but you have, like many people, watched as the face of Labour changed. I really am not sure what this Momentum led Labour party stands for.

I feel they are using the usual problems in the UK as no more than a stick to beat the establishment, and as a way to get onside the younger, less aware, and perhaps more rebellious voter, who has no real idea of the havoc a far left party can wreak under the banner of 'socialism.'

This is an anti-establishment Marxist party at it's root. It lost a lot of support when far left Corbyn became leader. You gave it time Annie, but your fears are justified.

Didn’t he turn into a cat?

Oh no Saucer of milk Galloway

That’s gorgeous George ?

Good post Cherry, summed up the Corbyn party perfectly

Hatton the Marxist who wears Armani.

lemongrove I find your accusation that supporters of JC are all anti Semetic as 8slightly hysterical and typical of the right of centre views espoused by many hard core tories. Though of course right wingers are not exactly known for their positive attitudes to minority groups.
I am on the left within the Labour attitudes and see JCs & L abours manifesto as more in line with the kind of country I want to live in. I do not support his approach to Europe and he has not been the strong leader I would prefer. I am not nor ever have been anti- Semetic.

the (new) group are anti-democratic in that they won’t accept the referendum result, they won’t go back to their constituencies and give them the choice as to whether they want them or not as independent MPs and they won’t declare who is funding them

Yes, this disturbs me too Maryeliza54
It's no secret I voted Leave but this is a party group of those who want a second referendum and want to remain in the EU. If Soubry and co from the Conservative party resign and join them it will be no loss.

I do feel they should accept that their constituents may no longer want them to represent them and they should accept that by elections will take place.

I am no Corbyn supporter, but the original defectors WERE Labour MPs. They either stand with the party or accept their days in politics are over. I feel nothing but scorn for those Tory MPs who are doing their best to keep us tied to the EU. They too have contempt for the leadership of their party. If MPs undermine their parties they do deserve to be outed, and those parties can stand or fall according to the electorate.

I appreciate they have left the Labour party as a matter of principle but they should also be divested of their political standing and authority too, for the sake of democracy and their constituents.

Never heard racism was democracy before .

Anyway Corbyn has said he is going to change the lives of millions

I heard Dianne Abbott interviewed just before she was indisposed last general election and she couldn’t tell the commentator when the franchises ended or what it would cost to buy them back. Her reply was ‘it must be cheaper’ yes I know it’s dianne but really??

Look there are good policies on both sides.

But the polarisation of hard left and it’s pokitics of hate the rich blah blah blah verses the far right and it’s politics of we hate Europe and sod the poor isn’t healthy.

We need a middle ground.

Btw Tony Blair’s government rebuilt all the crumbling schools in my area of worsestershire with PFIs for which we are eternally grateful.

Labour candidates voted into power (as MPs) should not retain that authority or title if they quit their party is all I am saying. It doesn't matter which party they quit or why they quit.

It is up to their constituents now if they retain the authority of MP.

If their constituents voted Leave in the referendum they are unlikely to support a group who want the UK to remain tied to Brussels.

Luciana has been awarded a vote of no confidence in her constituency

Frank Field is now independent

Hello all, what a glorious sunny day, things are sprouting.

I am so glad the 7 have all gone off to play together and do their own thing.

I am so excited because no deal Brexit is coming and it is the only delivery of what we, the majority of voters voted for.

I love the word majority and democracy, nice ring to it together.

Such good times coming, all will be well

Best wishes happy posters.

Honda stated that they are not leaving because of Brexit, so there