Breakaway Labour MP’s

In what way?

in every way.

The venom towards JC on this thread is sickening. Are you so afraid of left wing values, those of you who are or were Labour members for whatever reason?

What happened to pulling together towards common goals?
We should be fighting the Tories who are incompetent, dangerous and in disarray, not each other, comrades.

No, Labour certainly won't win an election now.

Either he's incompetent or he's a dangerous Red. Which is it then?

Oh dear! Come on Jalima be specific.

Jalima that won't do.

Most if not all those who have quit increased their majorities under JC's leadership. That's how hopeless he is.

Well posted Rowantree, and I don't think Labour will lose the next election if they campaign on a Socialist programme.

Just heard Bernie Sanders is going for the nomination in the US and the same applies there. Bad move to select Hilary (megabucks) Clinton last time which lost the vote and let in Trump.

Bernie Sanders might have beaten Trump in 2016 but now??? (see too old thread)

The illogical and self conflicting arguments posted by those who pretend to be against this Tory government and to be in some way centrist (but actually are slightly to the left of Margaret Thatcher) are so incredibly silly.
Classic examples
Corbyn is incompetent and couldn't organise a booze up in a brewery/but at the same time he is a dangerous individual with some sort of plan to introduce communism through the back door!!!
or
The Labour party is now only composed of middle class intellectuals/but has a high number of supporters in the NE and working class areas
One of the big problems is that so many are prepared to take the word of a right wing press and even echo it. They seem unable to think for themselves.

Left wing values ? When did racism become a left wing value?

When Corbyn became leader in my opinion .

Trisher yes you put it far more eloquently than I did! They aren't even logical within their own frameworks.

It feels like a pack mentality and it's very depressing that some of them claimed to be Labour supporters. The right wing press has a lot to answer for.

Grannypauline I hope you're right. And I really like Bernie. Lovely to see him having another go!

Corbyn is not and never has been a racist.

PECS

POGS the style pf my riposte to lemon was to illustrate the inanity of her post. Glad you spotted it! ???
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Nope I didn't spot anything of the kind in your ' reposte to lemon '.

I did spit somebody trying to be clever but looking a tad hypocritical, as I said.

"Corbyn is not and never has been a racist."
I agree.
Where have you been Rowantree?

Why am I a hypocrite? ? I mimiced your ott style to make a point.
Perhaps you found it too near reality for you?
You can attempt to deride those of us who desire a more economically equitable , educationally fair, caring & multi- cultural British society as much as you like. I will not be cowed by middle England Tory supporters or Farage fans.

Here we go anybody who does not believe in Jeremy Corbyn get's their information from the right wing press.

Lazy debating!

That from someone who consistently refuses to look at other sources of information!

You said it, POGS

Fennel in or under the bed?

If you give a toss POGS I read news from a range of sources..including right wing Telegraph & I still think a left of centre Labour government is best. I guess you would say that you would still support a right of centre Tory government because you read The Morning Star .. we are never going to agree!

trisher

trisher Tue 19-Feb-19 20:18:54

That from someone who consistently refuses to look at other sources of information!
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Really, I even look at your links, some of which I find either unreliable or known political propaganda sites.

As you are a poster that often demands proof can you tell me when/where I have refused to look at other sources of information!

Oh dear! The Corbyn fan club is displeased.
Too bad.
He has no integrity at all, in fact, that is a joke.....man of principle blah blah.
He is a fairly dim weak vacillating man who has been promoted well above his abilities and is being used and propped up by a radical left wing group who have taken over the Party machinery.
The more we see and know of him the worse it gets.

PECS You lose your rag easily I see.....saying ‘I will not be cowed’ etc ( then a lot of insults) Stop taking political posts
personally it’s just silly.

PECS Tue 19-Feb-19 20:28:19

' If you give a toss POGS I read news from a range of sources..including right wing Telegraph & I still think a left of centre Labour government is best ."
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PECS You are correct , I don't really give a toss about your reading material.

However as you say you read the right wing Telegraph according to Rowantree you by default must therefore have a ' pack mentality and it's very depressing that some of them claimed to be Labour supporters.'

I think that is a bloody ridiculous opinion to hold but there you go.

Integrity ? The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.

sitting on the floor of a train claiming there were no seats available when there was , this is honest ?

Attending a wreath laying ceremony to honour terrorists but couldn’t remember if he was involved , this is moraly principled?