"You cannot betray the six million people"

It’s not crunch time today in the HoC it’s another sideshow. TM will listen but not act on any of it. She will drag the corpse of a deal back for a vote in a day or two. God loves a trier! She’s delusional.

It is the use of such inflammatory terms as "betrayal" and "traitor" by politicians and the media that has encouraged anger and aggressive behaviour amongst leave voters.

In reality we have had two years of the government struggling to deliver the undeliverable promises of the misleading leave campaign. It is now time to be honest and admit that it is impossible"

I rather bothers me when people of my own age say they did something and would do it again regardless of new information. They haven't listened of refused to take note. I cannot believe that anyone on whichever side of the argument has not learned a lot in the past 3 years. There is so much I didn't know, when I thought I had heard it all, that I am still open to persuasion. Closed minds do so much harm.

This morning I read a tweet from someone who voted leave because of VAT on tampons and ebooks. Of course there should not be tax on those but is that enough reason to leave?

Isn’t this petition up for debate in Parliament sometime today?

It is. I doubt if anything meaningful will come from the 'debate' but I think that the sheer number of signatories will be having a political effect.

The title of this thread reminded me of another 'six million'.
I wonder if Tusk was thinking of that too. He is a Pole.

Personally I like the sound of this amendment, to be voted on for the first time today:

Motion G: Parliamentary supremacy
Proposer: Joanna Cherry, Scottish National Party

This option offers a series of steps to prevent the UK leaving the EU without a deal. First, it requires the government to seek an extension if a deal has not been agreed two days before the deadline for leaving.

If the EU does not agree to an extension, on the day before the UK was due to leave, MPs would be asked to choose between a no-deal Brexit or revoking Article 50 to stop Brexit altogether.

In the event of revoking Article 50, an inquiry would be held to find out what type of future relationship with the EU could command majority support in the UK and be acceptable to Brussels.

I wouldn’t have thought so Fennel, but you never know.

I thought it was very good, too, humptydumpty but, for some obscure reason, Labour didn't today.

Nothing 'won' so, heigh ho, off we go again. Will May try MV4 (or is it MV3.5) or will Bercow disallow it?

The times are getting a bit too interesting for my liking

I dislike the use of words like betrayal. Should I feel betrayed that my MP, having promised me and other constituents that a no-deal brexit could not possibly happen, has actually voted for it? Possibly, but then should all those who voted leave because they believed pie-in-the-sky undeliverable promises and outright lies from the cheating leave campaigners not also feel betrayed?

Faisal Islam on Sky News was explaining to Kay Burley what had happened in the latest cabinet meeting, when the Brexiteers protesting on Westminster started to shout behind the reporter.

As his report finished he called for the presenter to allow him more time to ask the protester wearing a UKIP badge why he was shouting “treason” behind him.

“Why did you just shout ‘treason’? How is that helpful?” asked Islam.

The protester claimed that Theresa May was “acting against the interests of the country”, before telling the reporter to “look it up in the dictionary, it’s what it means”.

The reporter was irritated and bemused, pondering how it was helpful “shouting names at the prime minister” when she was “trying to find solutions”.

He said: “You may disagree with that, but why do you shout treason?”

The campaigner claimed it was “because she’s a traitor” before resorting to saying that “the truth hurts” and that it was his “right” in a “free country” to be able to make those comments.

Islam did not disagree he had a right to have a difference of opinion, but could not understand how everyone who had a different opinion to the campaigner could be considered “traitors”.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/faisal-islam-on-sky-news-with-ukip-reporter-1-5973647

So now, in our disunited kingdom, "traitor" is an insult to be thrown at anyone who disagrees with the brexiters.

What have he come to? We cannot let prejudice and ignorance win.