LGBT protest at school

The language is baffling to adults, imagine being taught this in year one!

But that isn't what is happening, is it. I don't think it enhances any argument to ... to be quite so economical with the truth.

re France - the Govt. schools are secular, but there are many Catholic-run 'private' schools. Much cheaper than private schools in the UK.
Also some Muslim and Jewish schools.

Can someone please explain what is a male bodies lesbian!

Bodied!!!

Andrew Moffat is teaching children that people are born in the wrong body as fact rather than a belief some people share. Andrew Moffat and queer people believe males with xy chromosomes can be a lesbian or Mummy because biology is a social construct and gender is all about feelings.

Right that makes no sense to me at all. Does it to you?

If it makes no sense to you, how do you expect children to comprehend? Why do you think these parents and lesbian feminist are so upset about all of this?

Again, LGBTQ+ as a movement is split, Google cotton ceiling!

Some people believe a lesbian is a same sex attracted person, two xx chromosome females.

Some people (Andrew Moffat teaching No Outsiders) believe a lesbian is a same gender attracted person, one xx chromosome person with an xy chromosome person or two xy chromosome people who feel like women, that a Mummy can be xx chromosome or xy chromosome and that biology is a social construct. These people are apparently queer.

medium.com/@JonnnyBest/whats-gone-wrong-with-stonewall-1be30cffba9f

DoesAnyoneKnow you are taking this far beyond anything that is being said in the schools.

All they seem to be suggesting is that, in this country, just because my family may not look like your family, we still treat people with kindness and ensure all are included, in this case, within the group that is the school and in the wider case (as children get older) within the structures of the country. It is nothing to do with religion.

It does appear that what some are saying is that there are people, for whatever reason they put forward, who should not be treated in an inclusive way. That could well be illegal and certainly not what our schools -all our schools -have been instructed to teach. I would not personally, want my children or grandchildren subjected to such bigotry.

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

DoesAnyoneKnow

Thanks for the link and it was so interesting. Could I ask you and obviously you can refuse.

what Is your angle on this? From a feminist viewpoint?

I don't like lies.

I don't like autistic and gay children having their bone development restricted, their IQ reduced, their overall health compromised and in the case of the suspended Webberley GPs patients - given cross sex hormones.

I don't like people being told they can't refuse a partner for an intimate relationship.

I don't like people being told that they aren't allowed to hold a belief or forced to believe something they do not.

I don't like parents being refused the right to protect their children from ideology that can cause confusion in adults.

Ok thank you for sharing that.

I hope the links helped, this is far more complex than it first appears.

I am not a Muslim. If they want to believe in their Holy book that is none of my business, they should not be forced to believe something they don't. They should not force their benefits onto me.

I am not queer. If they want to believe in that males are female, that biology doesn't exist, that males are Mummy, that males are lesbians that is none of my business, they should not be forced to believe something they don't. They should not force their benefits onto me.

I am not a flatearther. If they want to believe in the earth is flat that is none of my business, they should not be forced to believe something they don't. They should not force their benefits onto me.

None should be outsiders, yet it appears some are more equal than others in the oppression Olympics.

I think the younger a child is introduced to same sex parents /relationships the easier they accept them.Otherwise the taunts of "gay boy" that one of my sons friends suffered will continue.People are people what they do or dont do in the privacy of their own home is none of my business but what other folk say to them and bring their children up to say to them is .Bigotry breeds bigotry and if the books help stop little bigots all well and good .

Oh for heaven's sake! I have just seen this in the link Doesanyoneknow put up.

Parkfield Community School, a Birmingham primary with a 98% Muslim intake

Why on earth can't they simply bow to the paents' wishes and not have this line of teaching? (the remaining 2% of the kids could hyave a little private lesson)

That school is just encouraging conflict between muslems and non-muslems.

muslims (?) muslems (?)

pddyann I would think those taunts just came from nasty people.Nothing will change that.

DoesAnyoneKnow do you or do you not think the books in question should be used in this particular school. A straight 'yes' or 'no' answer would be greatly appreciated.

I would think the sensible approach would be to introduce these inclusion lessons at an older age. Maybe 10/11.

I would also hope that the content of these lessons and books was rigorously examined by ofsted or other relevant bodies and open to scrutiny

Gone girl this is part of the curriculum for the whole of the country. Which part of it will you allow parents to pick and choose next?

In this country It is considered wrong to value some people more than others and children need to learn about that and what it means. All children benefit from this and I can see no reason why the views of the man or woman down the road should influence this. No one is stopping them explaining to their children that the do not "believe" in whatever. Jehovah's witnesses, etc, have always had to explain to their children why they don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas or Easter and have managed it.

You’d think 10 or 11 wouldn’t you but actually 6 and 7 year olds frequently call other children “gay” as a bullying term and taunt them for what they see as “girly” behaviour such as not liking football or wearing the ‘wrong” sort of clothes.

If the taunting starts early shouldn’t the teaching of respect for others start early too?

Definitely anything that concerns children's religious upbringing.

This school is 98% muslim. Let the parents decide on this point.

Nothing will change nasty little bullies. It's all down to their home upbringing. Or lack of it.

It's perfectly alright to try though, if it is in accordance with the parents' beliefs.