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How very dare he!

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phoenix Sat 01-Jun-19 07:12:27

Bloody Trump, sticking his nose in!

The arrogance of the man angry

Grandad1943 Sun 02-Jun-19 07:27:54

I apologise to Absent for my error and for criticising her.

The Absent correction of her own post was carried out in a very similar way as would another forum member who continually tries to embarrass others in their spelling or grammar errors.

As you may see Absent the above can be "a very sore point" with some of us on the forum as those corrections can be aimed at persons suffering from such conditions as Dyslexia, arthritis or other mobility problems in the hands and arms.

However, once again, my apologies Absent. blush

BlueBelle Sun 02-Jun-19 07:40:09

Today I hear the stirring shxxbxg has been telling us we should get out of Europe with no deal and not pay a penny we owe I can see that revving the leavers up to a ‘whoop whoop whoop we love you Donnie baby’ state
He needs to keep his sticky beak out of it and concentrate on the muddle that is his own country
He is a DANGEROUS stirrer and could cause unknown damage to Europe and us. He's doubly dangerous because he’s not very intelligent but clever in manipulation

Urmstongran Sun 02-Jun-19 07:48:59

I like him.
I can see his appeal and millions of people in the US from all spectrums of the country, voted for him.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he gets a second term (if he wants to stand).

People are fed up of politicians. He has a different background and fresh approach. He puts America first even if it alienates others.

I wish he’d been negotiating Brexit.

Obama was a great orator and a decent man but many over there said he didn’t achieve very much in his two terms of office. I remember the Remainers didn’t object to his coming over here to say we shouldn’t Brexit and if we did, we’d be last in the queue.

Haters are always gonna hate.

Nannytopsy Sun 02-Jun-19 07:50:13

Trump and his Russian friends have already caused a lot of damage to Europe.

Grammaretto Sun 02-Jun-19 08:04:43

How long does this state visit last? It's only a few days surely. In the greater scheme of things it, and Trump's reign, are small blots on the landscape, but severing ties with Europe is dangerous and lasting.
I hope someone can tell me I'm wrong.
I miss those awful puppets at times like these. What were they called? Spitting Image. The Trump one would have been a cracker.

Urmstongran Sun 02-Jun-19 08:07:03

Trump has a great fondness for Great Britain, he has tremendous respect for the Queen and our shared history, and he's proud of his Scottish heritage.

The first thing he did as President was reinstall the bust of Winston Churchill in a prominent place in the Oval Office, where it remains. He is a personable, gregarious man, with a good sense of humour most of the time and sometimes a temper.

I bet some of the things written about him are false, out of context, or only half true. Check out a right leaning or middle news site to get the other side!

BlueBelle Sun 02-Jun-19 08:19:12

haters are always going to hate
What a lot there is to hate racist, homophobe, misogynist, sexist, egotistical, narcissistic, unintelligent, bombastic, whiner, stirrer, liar, spreader of fake news, insincere immigrant hater but married immigrants, son of ku klux klan parents (immigrant mother) and grandson of a man (immigrant) who built his empire on brothels I m sure others can add to the list

Urmstongran Sun 02-Jun-19 08:24:52

Don’t hold back. Let it all spew out it might lower your blood pressure.
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BlueBelle Sun 02-Jun-19 08:27:24

My blood pressure totally fine thanks ummm now going to the beach lovely day here ?

Jabberwok Sun 02-Jun-19 08:41:13

I see absolutely no reason to treat President Trump with discourtesy, in fact it just puts this country in a bad light and makes us look like a rabble. Much better just to ignore him if you feel that strongly, the same goes for Parliament! nothing worse than speaking to an empty room! After all we welcomed the Chinese without mass demonstations, or do we not care about their human rights record, Tiananmen Square or admittedly way further back, Tibet, to name just a few?!!

Iam64 Sun 02-Jun-19 08:53:44

BlueBelle's description of Trump is acceptable to me. He's loathsome and dangerous.
However, he's the President and it's a state visit (is it, it's a formal visit anyway) so I'm disappointed that Jeremy Corbyn won't attend the state dinner with the Queen. It feels a bit 1970's SWP protest, rather than the behaviour of the leader of Her Maj's Opposition.
This isn't a Jeremy bashing comment honest, just a reflection of how I feel. Loathe the Trumpster, absolutely ok with public protests about him and his ego / visit but, it seems rude to Her Maj and the position of Leader of the Opposition to take your bat and ball home.

Urmstongran Sun 02-Jun-19 08:56:38

The lefties in London don’t speak for me with their planned protests over the next 3 days and this will be up again on Tuesday with a new insult bought from China - apparently they have a robot Trump sitting on a toilet.

Iam64 Sun 02-Jun-19 09:02:37

That's fine Urmstongran, no one says the protesters in London speak for everyone but they certainly represent a fair chunk of public opinion.

DoraMarr Sun 02-Jun-19 09:32:40

I don’t understand this “ people are fed up with politicians.” Politicians have more understanding of politics than property developers and hedge fund managers. Trump’s comments today show he has no understanding of the Brexit process by his assumption that it is just like a business deal. Many of those in his government have left or have been sacked because their advice was ignored or they dared to disagree with him. Running a country is not the same as running a business. And, by the way, he wasn’t even very good at that, despite what he says!

Beckett Sun 02-Jun-19 09:43:24

BlueBelle I heard that interview and what he actually said was "It is up to them but as I have been asked my opinion....." However it seems the BBC have decided to edit his comments. I am not a supporter of Trump - he scares me witless but I am in favour of unbiased, unedited reporting.

Ginny42 Sun 02-Jun-19 09:53:41

Trump needs to keep out of interfering with other peoples' trade negotiations. Watch what he's brewing with China and with Iran. What started off as a trade war between China and the US has deepened into something far more contentious and dangerous. We don't want to mimic that negotiation technique.

He's in no position to give advice. Don't forget his personal failed business ventures. He's filed for bankruptcy several times.

www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019

Tension between Tehran and Washington is increasing with banks and companies reviewing evacuation plans in case of escalation. Don't want to mimic those negotiation techniques thank you Donald.

Who is he to promote candidates for leader of the Tories or promoting Farage as negotiator with the EU? Why listen to a failed negotiator?

Chucky Sun 02-Jun-19 10:00:00

I like most on here loathe Trump, however the American people voted for him to be their leader (or was it a case of voting against the odious Hilary Clinton?), as such it is correct that there should be a State Visit. Rather than protest about this visit I would have preferred it to be ignored as much as possible, the least media coverage the better!
I am SO pleased that he supports Boris for the position of Conservative Leader. Hopefully that may influence some of those involved in choosing our next PM, to avoid voting for him!

Jabberwok Sun 02-Jun-19 10:02:15

Exactly Beckett, its so easy to take things out of context and alter the meaning!!! The Chinese are pretty loathsome, but on here clearly no one thinks so! We welcomed them with courtesy, kept the few protesters well away, insulting balloons?!! I don't think so! Having said that, I wouldn't have had it conducted any differently, ditto many other dreadful heads of state over the years that have paid us a visit!
Surely our long term relationship with the U.S.A is far more important than one transitory President?!!

Jabberwok Sun 02-Jun-19 10:05:06

Who was President Obama to tell us how to vote in the referendum, peddling project fear? Laughable when at the time, he wasn't even going to be in power for much longer!!!

Framilode Sun 02-Jun-19 10:41:22

Trump's security for his 3 day visit is costing us £14 million. I can think of better ways to spend it.

Urmstongran Sun 02-Jun-19 10:59:20

Wonder what is cost for the Obama visits? No mention of that.

abbey Sun 02-Jun-19 11:03:34

I like Trump. I like Farage, which is why I don't fit in with the progressive left wing agenda here. Live with it.

Its been said before, Obama suck his nose in . So have a myriad of "celebs" . I didn't see anyone on this site complain.

I don't personally care what Trump thinks or says. It doesn't affect my liking for Farage or my dislike of May for example.

I do think we need to remember he is here now because this is the anniversary of D Day. WE have been friends with the USA a long time.

There is no need to disrespect the office of Potus , no matter who is in it. Remember, he was democratically elected. ( which is more than can be said for much of what is going on in this tin pot country of ours right now). We have hosted a bunch of terrorists and despots on state visits. Why pick on trump?

jaylucy Sun 02-Jun-19 11:19:21

Everything about that man gives me the creeps! I thought that he hung on to his wife because he was a bit unsteady on his feet at first, but then decided that he is trying to present a united front and does she look like she is enjoying it? Not at all! I wonder if after his term of office if they will still be together ?
I was reading that he will be just about bringing everything in 2s with him - 2 jumbo jets ( Airforce 1), 2 armoured limos, ( 2 transporters to bring them) 2 helicopters plus numerous security personnel - London and Plymouth will be being scoured by them as we speak. Then that is before the cost of OUR police force while he is here!

mrneduc Sun 02-Jun-19 11:29:50

My goodness what a ‘right on’ group this is.

SillyNanny321 Sun 02-Jun-19 11:33:25

Can anyone else remember this silly man & the equally silly Vince McMahon chasing each other around a wrestling ring.
Sooo glad I do not live in America though at the moment sometimes wish I didnt live here.
Never happy are we??