How very dare he!

That doesn't mean I wasn't disappointed that a man with proven record of misogyny and racism was to be the President of the United States, ergo arguably the most significant politician on earth.

So you would rather have endorsed the oh so squeaky clean Hilary Clinton would you? Bill Clinton was impeached.

Marcus Ball has brought the case and it's in court

Marcus Ball ( not his real name it seems but an aka) and a possible con man and fraudster living the high life on crowdfunding donations given to him by those who support remain.

OK, take pot shots at the other side if you will but please also acknowledge the less honest types on your won side too.

Bill Clinton. Wasn’t he the one with DNA on Monica Lewinsky’s dress? Bit more than ‘pussy grabbing’. But hey, he’s a Democrat, like Obama so no condemnation eh? Let’s just go for Trump and hate him....

As I said before, the haters gonna hate.
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Bill Clinton is the one who said he "didn't have sex with that woman".

I have to admit to feeling sorry for him sometimes. Like when he got on that aeroplane and had no idea what to do with his umbrella, and in the end just left it on the floor in the doorway.

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and be a lone voice by saying I'm with all three men.

phoenix just because someone likes the look of a man doesn't have to mean they want him grab (what you said ) or any other bits of them.

And why not Gad! Your opinion counts just the same as anyone’s! I like 2 out of the 3 too.
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I hate Farage. With a vengeance.

Abbey Did I say I endorsed HC? I was referring solely to DT. Sorry, I don't understand your second post.

I'm sticking my head above the parapet by being a lone voice saying I'm with all three men.

Ginny42. Cheers Ginny! I have been cut off a bit - missed some news. I shall watch this space...

Abbey Did I say I endorsed HC? I was referring solely to DT. Sorry, I don't understand your second post.

The US presidency is a two horse race. The choice was Hills or Donald.

Gonegirl. Me too! He is utterly vile! Have you seen his views about the NHS? Basically to privatise it all - "go down the insurance route.." he said. What a nasty, wicked, uncaring, evil, cold-blooded creature he is.

urmstongran whether or not I'm "gorgeous" is neither here nor there, cheap shot. But as you are a declared Trump fan, then no doubt you would probably think his looks are entirely natural, his farts (if indeed he does fart) smell of roses in the morning, and sandalwood & jasmine in the evening, and make a wonderful noise akin to "Ode to Joy" when (if) air does pass between his firm and (naturally) tanned buttocks.

Oops, not "Ode to Joy" of course, as that is the anthem for Europe, perhaps it might be more appropriate if it was something else?

That's a daft post phoenix

I hate Farage. With a vengeance.

Why? Do you know him personally to hold such strong feelings?

I find it very hard to understand how anyone can claim to have such strong feelings really..... although I must admit that I am beginning to feel considerable hostility toward remain voters now ( which could spill out in my attitude toward individuals if I were to meet them and I were less than rational) . My faith in democracy and my belief that as a winner I have the right to expect my instructions to be followed - not fudged, not "re interpreted" and certainly not ignored or kicked down the road.

If it was the other way round would remainers agree to a second , third , fourth of fifth vote until leave won? Of course they wouldnt. When we entered the EEC ( now EU) there was one referendum and the winner took all. It was 45 years before anyone got another say.

My hostility of feeling is essentially directed toward how these in my opinion arrogant , ill willed and anti democratic individuals could , even though a minority in terms of the democratic vote, seek to overthrow the basic principles of democracy , free speech and the right of the winner to be given their choice enacted and think they are doing everyone a favour because the other side ( leave - and people like me) are thick, ignorant children who didnt know what they were voting for and have no right to make decisions. That is essentially what it has come down to now.

The ship has sailed on having a debate about leaving or staying in the EU. Any arguments that might have been are gone. It is about the enactment of democracy vs totalitarianism. Its about the vote of the majority vs the establishment who are ignoring them.

Was that post necessary Phoenix - other than it demonstrates exactly what I have said about remain and the respect for democracy and the views of others.

I don’t like Trump but my American friend thinks he’s great simply because he puts America first. Isn’t that just what anybody wants of their President / Prime Minister?

abbey I voted remain. I honestly thought it would be the majority vote.
But leave won the vote.
Do I want us to have another vote because people might have changed their minds?
Do I think we might need to vote again about the terms or even decide whether we still want to leave?
NO! The referendum was quite simply that the most votes would win. Leave got the most votes. I didn't vote for it, but I want it to be done, I want us to go ahead and leave! Sensibly if we possibly can. Most votes were for Leave and that's what we must do.
We cannot go back on what was promised.
abbey you are absolutely right!

No. Don't know him personally. But I still hate the bugger.

abbey regarding the choice the electors had for the POTUS. I couldn't agree more! What a choice! I'm just glad I didn't have to make the choice......

Urmonston Yes, you're right there is a lot of hatred about - and a fair chunk of it has come from, and been incited by, Trump. Don't paint this man as some kind of victim - he is a manipulative bully.

Regarding "hating" a politician, I think and indeed experience that it is possible to do so even when your best knowledge of them is to listen to their speeches and hear them interviewed and to learn their beliefs and policies for the country. One can gain a huge amount of information and when a person is arrogant, does not care about very hard-working low-paid people, or people living in poor housing conditions or people whom he would place outside access to health care... well, you start to dislike them, then you find them threatening, then you hate them for being so cruel and only caring about themselves and their own types of well-paid well-off people.
I have met my MP, well whether she is still our MP is a moot point, since the Conservatives have lent us the lady next door to share for now. Ours was voted in as a Conservative. The local party members worked extremely hard for her. She owes her success in politics to these dedicated Tories (I'm not one) who gave up their time and spent their own money to support her so she gained a seat in the first instance. Then suddenly they learned she had bailed out on them and was no longer a Conservative but had begun some other "Let's hop off the sinking ship with the other rats" party. Anyway, I met her. In my house. I wrote about it. People said "She's very litigious". In other words she'll say it's not true and sue you. But her Local Conservative Office Man was here too. Maybe he would like to support my TRUE description of all that passed when she came here. For she behaved in a truly strange and alarming way. She was shouting that my furniture was in the wrong places for a start. She shouted "You do not have paint, you know you don't!" because I had decorating materials prepared ready. I assumed this was because I am disabled... She was entirely crazy, unreasonable, screaming, yelling things such as "What's that suitcase thing? What's it doing there?" It was a trumpet case. I had brought it down to oil the trumpet. Also "What is this ugly thing? Why is it here?" and "NO! that is NOT a table, you know it is not!" when I told her the round thing against the wall was the top of the oak table. Anyway what business was it of hers? She seemed to have "lost it" in terms of knowing why she had come to my house which was because I had a terrible experience with a dreadful builder. So of course, I can honestly say, along with a great many people who know her personally, I absolutely detest her.

Sadly, abbey
"Was that post necessary Phoenix?" made me look at it! I had skimmed over because I saw a couple of rude phrases and I ignore such things!
Phoenix. That was too graphic.