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Sadiq Kahn’s views on Donald Trump - unprofessional?

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Kandinsky Sun 02-Jun-19 19:03:24

Not sure if gransnetters outside of London know what our mayor is saying, but he’s going way over the top in my opinion.
He really needs to keep his personal hatred of another politician to himself, especially a politician who’s one of our greatest allies.

What do you think?

EllanVannin Mon 03-Jun-19 17:45:14

Glammy57, are you being funny ? Tsk !

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 17:50:27

Not only that - heads of state who have committed monstrous acts and denied civil liberties have been granted the honour of state visits too. Where were the protesters then?

I am no fan of Trump but this is a left wing protest and it has been allowed - as if we should all fall in line, this is the only way to feel.

Why should we reject the legitimately elected POTUS, here to meet our Head of State and to pay his respects to the American service men and women who died aiding us in WWII?

Because left wingers want to humiliate him, we should applaud them?

Even worse, should we tolerate Sadiq Khan's lack of manners, foresight and diplomacy given he holds such a prestigious position?

The biggest fools in Britain today are those who applaud the left-wing shouty numb-skulls flying abusive balloons depicting Trump, who imagine they represent UK feeling.

EllanVannin Mon 03-Jun-19 17:51:29

Day6, it's how I feel too.

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 17:53:58

How do you deduce that the balloon fliers think they imagine UK feeling? Would that be everybody in the UK?

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 17:54:38

OH no it's just the shouty left wingers, whoever they are.

crystaltipps Mon 03-Jun-19 17:55:54

Political satire has gone on in the UK since the 18th century. All those moaners on here would like to stop
that, apart from ones they agree with of course. Khan did not put the balloon up he gave it permission as he only had to say whether it would compromise airspace, he didn’t have to say whether he agreed with it or not. He gave permission for one of himself as well. I don’t see how that justifies some of the poisonous vitriol on here. I didn’t know he was responsible for Lee Rigby either.

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 18:02:15

Let's face it, they are all the same.

EllanVannin Mon 03-Jun-19 18:15:58

The vitriol as usual is from the same clique who predictably hone in if someone happens to pass a remark about those of foreign extraction. It never fails !!

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 18:19:37

Yes, it's so predictable Ellan.

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 18:20:34

But you fail to explain yourself. You talk of a PC brigade and bring the murder of soldier by Islamic fundamentalists into a discussion on Trump/Khan.

What is the connection?

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 18:26:49

Political satire

You call that infantile balloon-flying left wing stunt "satire" Crystaltipps?

I call it the sort of thing witless types easily amused by milkshake-throwing would find hilarious.

Last time I looked, satire involved humour and wit.

lemongrove Mon 03-Jun-19 18:30:36

Well,said Day6 and Ellan smile

SirChenjin Mon 03-Jun-19 18:31:16

Oh it’s very humorous and witty. IMO of course - not being one to speak for the nation.

Anniebach Mon 03-Jun-19 18:35:14

Trump’s visit is to commemorate the dead of D Day. As President he is representing the people of America.

The behaviour of Khan, Cable, Corbyn, the Speaker is a disgrace.

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 18:46:07

Only 3 US Presidents since 1952 have been given State visits why on earth give one to Trump?
And the balloons (both of them) are funny!!!

Glammy57 Mon 03-Jun-19 18:59:02

EllanVannin - there was no humour in my response. I find it alarming that you still harbour negative thoughts about something which happened in 2013! I may have a different opinion if the late Lee Rigby was personally known to you.

Luckygirl Mon 03-Jun-19 19:08:41

Well - he probably should not have said it really - but, hell, Trump is such a prize pillock that he can be forgiven I feel.

SueDonim Mon 03-Jun-19 19:11:19

I'm currently in the US, where people who've spoken to us have apologised for their president and who seem to find the blimp rather amusing and wish they'd thought of it first.

That just seems to be the view from this particular place on this side of the Big Pond.

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 19:24:10

Glammy57

I find it alarming that you still harbour negative thoughts about something which happened in 2013!

I find it alarming that you can be so dismissive of an event that horrified the nation and indeed the world - an off duty British soldier mown down by a car and attacked by two Islamist terrorists who then attempted to cut off his head.

The murder of Lee Rigby will remain in the minds of everyone horrified that this poor young man was butchered to death on a London street.

Timeline, from the BBC.

22 May, 14:18 - Car driven at Lee Rigby

Michael Adebolajo drives the Tigra at 30-40mph (48-64km/h) straight at Lee Rigby as he crosses the road in Artillery Place. Adebolajo and Adebowale get out of the car armed with a meat cleaver, knives and a revolver. They attack the motionless body of Mr Rigby and Adebelojo attempts to decapitate him.

22 May, 14:21 - Fusilier Rigby dragged into road

I am not sure why the horror of that event should be forgotten or why thoughts about it would be anything other than "negative".

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 19:35:21

Freddy Gray writes in The Spectator. Trump should not stoop to Sadiq Khan’s level,

(I have to say I agree with him.)

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/donald-trump-should-not-stoop-to-sadiq-khans-level/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Evening%20_Blend_20190603&utm_campaign=Evening_Blend

"I don’t think Trump should attack the London Mayor upon his arrival. He shouldn’t stoop to Khan’s level. He shouldn’t dignify Khan — who is little more than a left-liberal troll at this point — with a response."

"Trump being Trump, he can’t resist counter-punching Khan. Twitter spats are his modus operandi. But it is a shame that he has insisted on reigniting his feud with Khan, since there are far more interesting things to talk about at this important moment in the relations between America and Brexit Britain. Trump vs Khan is a silly distraction, a bit like that ridiculous (and oddly small) Trump baby protest blimp that commands so much media attention."

"Of course, Trump is still right that Khan should focus on knife-crime, which is soaring under his watch, instead of trying to score cheap points against Trump. But that is what he has become: a petty, press-release Mayor who has so far achieved very little and diminished his own office. When he was elected, Londoners celebrated the fact that a Muslim man could be elected, and rightly so. But he has been very unimpressive. Now the only time he commands any significant attention is when Donald Trump blows into town. Trump has just given him precisely the publicity he so craves. "

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 19:46:50

The murder of Lee Rigby by Islamist terrorists was totally wrong.

Khan is a Muslim. It appears he has been something of a disappointment in his role as mayor and has been rather foolish in his public spats with Trump.

What exactly is the connection between these 2 events?

Callistemon Mon 03-Jun-19 20:01:44

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 13:00:39
I think they are both in the wrong

Neither are political satirists - they are supposedly serious politicians and neither is acting like one at times.

EllanVannin Mon 03-Jun-19 20:04:20

Par for the course, Elvive. Their insults for the whites as well as their actions towards them !

Doodle Mon 03-Jun-19 20:08:23

I think they are both wrong too. I think the blimp is rude and should not have been allowed. Whatever you think of Trump (and I do not care for him at all) to be rude just brings us down to a low level.

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 20:14:31

Those that murdered Lee Rigby were " insulting whites?"

Those that don't like Trump and protest are " insulting whites?"

This has got to be one of the most ill informed and offensive things that has been posted here.