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WadesNan Thu 13-Jun-19 11:08:55

Does anyone else think that Jo Brand's "joke" was in bad taste? Talking about the milkshake throwing she said "Why bother with milkshake when you could get some battery acid"

I appreciate she is anti-Brexit and she is entitled to share her views on that but surely this "joke" was a step too far.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 14:37:04

Where did I say I love her? Why the need for the binary approach? Do we not have opinions, thoughts, nuanced ideas?

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 14:42:28

showed real people forcing their way into countries they had no right to be in unless they applied to go there by legitimate means

No it didn't. It showed people trying to get to Slovenia in order to get to Germany. Do you see forcing?

A disgraceful lie.

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 14:44:36

Thanks Elvive..

Day6 Thu 13-Jun-19 14:46:29

Farage does not advocate using acid, he advocates rifles

Have you got that sentence on speed-write Whitewave?hmm

I have said I'd walk over hot coals to defend my children. Not sure that I would.
People before Farage, picked up rifles to defend their country from a foe determined to take it and mould it to their design. Now we have the EU doing just that. Farage didn't name an enemy or suggest he would fire his rifle to maim or kill anyone.

Jo Brand wanted politicians she didn't like maimed. In an acid attack.

We all know left wing protesters have enjoyed throwing milk shakes over politicians they disapprove of. Jo Brand took this further suggesting milk shake throwers should have used battery acid.

You sound desperate to defend Jo Brand. Hang the UK and all patriots, but maim and disfigure non-left-wingers/ or Leavers having the temerity to vote against the EU...

Rowantree Thu 13-Jun-19 14:46:42

Well, I like Jo Brand. Didn't hear this quip but it sounds definitely on the edge - but then, a lot of humour is just that. Look at Monty Python (that dates me!) Unwise probably, but I confess I'd have laughed and winced at the same time - only because I can't stand the rightist moron to whom she referred.

Rowantree Thu 13-Jun-19 14:49:44

Day6 aren't you forgetting what happened to Jo Cox?

eazybee Thu 13-Jun-19 14:50:51

Jo Brand's act, which I would not dignify with the name comedy, is designed to shock, provoke a reaction and upset those she professes to despise, therefore I am not particularly surprised by this latest remark. To maintain her standing, she has to be increasingly outrageous.

What does shock is the fact that it was pre-recorded and that the BBC endorsed this unpleasant comment by broadcasting it.

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 14:51:22

'Farage didn't name an enemy or suggest he would fire his rifle to maim or kill anyone.'...what the hell do people intend to do with rifles then...?

Day6 Thu 13-Jun-19 14:54:54

Jo Cox was murdered. I don't remember ANYONE saying it was funny. I don't recall anyone defending that act of violence.

I am not sure why you have dragged her name into this Rowantree.

What is the connection with Jo Brand suggesting milkshake throwers should have used battery acid instead to maim a politician she dislikes? And the BBC defended her pre-recorded anti-Farage 'quip' and aired it.

Now tell me why Jo Cox is relevant to this discussion?

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 14:56:16

'Day6 aren't you forgetting what happened to Jo Cox?' wasn't it Farage's party that carried on campaigning when the others stopped out of respect for Jo Cox?

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 15:00:37

To those who engage in this thread but neither condone nor condemn, deflect or simply show no interest in answering the OP, what point are you trying to make?

There are times when arguing for the sake of it without putting forward any reasoned comment about the subject in hand simply remains ' arguing for the sake of it'

Do you have nothing, nada, zilch to say as to whether or not you believe it is acceptable for an individual to suggest ''throwing battery acid' over another person is acceptable or not, even if it is said supposedly in jest?

Accuse me now of being the thought police but I am happy to be called that even if just one of you answer.

janipat Thu 13-Jun-19 15:03:08

There's an awful lot of "whataboutery" going on in this thread. Surely it's possible to consider Jo Brand's "joke" in isolation from what others may have said. It was clearly a very unwise joke in this time when there have been acid attacks. It does seem incredible that the BBC didn't think they should edit the comment out, and clearly Jo Brand stands by it or she'd have wanted it edited out.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 15:03:56

I think my previous sentence " JB should never have said what she did" pretty much covers it?

suziewoozie Thu 13-Jun-19 15:04:24

I think I mentioned Jo Cox first. I was trying to make the point that since her murder, attitudes towards ‘jokes’ about physically harming politicians have ( or should have ) changed.

seacliff Thu 13-Jun-19 15:09:45

I just think it is an horrible, awful thing to say about anyone, whoever you are, and could be dangerously inciting too.

Callistemon Thu 13-Jun-19 15:15:28

Unwise probably, but I confess I'd have laughed and winced at the same time - only because I can't stand the rightist moron to whom she referred.

Since when has advocating ABH been just 'unwise'?

Thank goodness for the rifles in 1939 - 1945, whitewave, or else we would be under the rule of those fascists that you so rightly despise.

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 15:17:19

Day 6

I mentioned Jo Cox earlier.

I think reminding people of the murder of Jo Cox and the Hope Not Hate campaign is totally relevant to not only what Jo Brand has said but the general hate filled environment and incitement to hatred and violence some appear happy to spout.

I have just revisited old Gransnet threads on the murder of Jo Cox and it is troubelling that what was said at that time can be so easily forgotten whether by the country in general or individuals.

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 15:19:33

'Now tell me why Jo Cox is relevant to this discussion' ..some people [myself included] believe that the racial hatred stirred up by Farage et al was responsible for Jo Cox's murder...

Boosgran Thu 13-Jun-19 15:21:03

Absolutely disgraceful remark. Another smug leftie moron.

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 15:23:05

Well I thought it was funny. I have felt the same about him myself. I suppose this means I am a loony leftie. No worse than Farage saying he would don khaki and grab a rifle if he didn't get Brexit. On Newsthump some have suggested leaving the acid in the battery and throwing the whole thing. grin

FlexibleFriend Thu 13-Jun-19 15:27:03

I didn't find it funny but I don't think she is funny, so no surprise there.

kittylester Thu 13-Jun-19 15:30:15

Actually, elvive, my objection was to her being rude about people paying decent money to watch her when she didnt have the courtesy to be on time. You will be surprised to hear that the Tattoo started on time!

Smileless2012 Thu 13-Jun-19 15:41:45

IMO WadesNan it was most definitely a step too far.

People are living with life changing injuries due to acid attacks. I've always rather liked Jo Brand, not so much for her comedy but tv shows she's been involved with but I found this 'joke' distasteful.

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 15:45:24

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 15:23:05

" Well I thought it was funny"
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Out of interest would you find it funny if it wasn't Farage but let's say Corbyn or Cable?

Day6 Thu 13-Jun-19 15:49:13

Labaik, you are desperately clutching at straws and trying to justify Brands disgusting comment.

Shame on you.

No one, comedian or otherwise went on national television to joke about hurting or killing a female politician.

The perpetrator of that act, the murderer, was roundly condemned by all upstanding, thinking people regardless of their political alliance. Why Jo Cox's name was dragged into this discussion is beyond me.

I thought similar, decent people would condemn Jo Brand. Seems I was wrong.