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WadesNan Thu 13-Jun-19 11:08:55

Does anyone else think that Jo Brand's "joke" was in bad taste? Talking about the milkshake throwing she said "Why bother with milkshake when you could get some battery acid"

I appreciate she is anti-Brexit and she is entitled to share her views on that but surely this "joke" was a step too far.

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:06:21

Yes pogs. If someone threw s milkshake at Corbyn and then a comedian said as Jo Brand did, I would find it funny. The political leaning of the comedian or of the putative politician does not affect my sense of humour. This does not mean I support throwing acid at anyone.

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 16:09:52

I'm not justifying her comment; just trying to point out that people who are up in arms about it are strangely quiet when it comes to death threats against Gina Miller, Anna Soubry etc...and I DO hold Farage and the leave campaign [along with the gutter press] responsible for Jo Cox's murder.

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 16:12:03

The word hypocrisy has been mentioned and what I find astonishing is there willl be / are people who make their decision as to ' whom' this type of hatred is shown and whether or not they feel this type of behaviour is acceptable.

It does not matter ' whom', it does not not matter whether you like somebody or not, it does not matter if you are politically for or against somebody.

The point is in the matter of Jo Brand you are either of the opinion it is offensive to make comments / jest about throwing acid over somebody or not. You can't on one hand believe in it being some sort of ' fair game' dependent on whether you like the person or not without being a hypocrite.

The cess pit of the politics and those who thinks it OK to carry placards that say ' kill / murder', the burning of effigies, effigies with ropes around their neck, effigies with knives in their back , mention of throwing acid over someone are acceptable only to those who certainly hold such venom they cannot and never will accept they are perpetrating such vile encitement to hatred and violence whilst perversely they will condemn it when it suits their agenda.

That is not only hypocrisy it is dangerous.

crystaltipps Thu 13-Jun-19 16:19:51

I agree it doesn’t matter to whom the attack is directed, it is unacceptable. So if it is unacceptable for Brand to say something which was on a comedy show which no one listens to, and Farage said he would take up a rifle and this was widely reported - implying he would shoot someone, and this after Jo Cox had been shot, then both should be condemned. However, because this is deemed to be a left wing comedian that no one seems to like it’s ok to get all foaming at the mouth about it and saint Nigel is excused.

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 16:27:51

The referendum and it's repercussions have turned this country into a place that I barely recognise sad ...

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 16:28:36

crystaltips

"However, because this is deemed to be a left wing comedian that no one seems to like it’s ok to get all foaming at the mouth about it and saint Nigel is excused."
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Who has excused Nigel Farage?

"I agree it doesn’t matter to whom the attack is directed, it is unacceptable."
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At least you have agreed it was unacceptable of Jo Brand, or can your words be misconstrued?

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:44:00

Nigel Farage sais he would 'don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines', not quite the same thing as the abbreviated version some people are quoting.
In other words, he would go to war.
He did not advocate killing. It was a euphemism for 'war', a 'war' waged against those who stymied Brexit.
On the other hand, Jo Brand was suggesting that throwing acid woukd be more effective than milkshake and there are many dunderheads who would and could buy acid quite easily, perhaps even mixing it with milkshake and think they are being funny.

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:44:23

sais said

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 16:45:15

Labaik
"The referendum and it's repercussions have turned this country into a place that I barely recognise sad ..."
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This country has turned into a place a lot of us don't recognise but it doesn't help when people state as you did on the Banning Milkshake thread:-

"I'm quite proud of living in a country where anger and frustration results in the throwing of milkshakes,"

It is those who show anger at the route of the problem so perhaps you could be a product of what you find so sad.

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:45:34

woukd would

POGS Thu 13-Jun-19 16:49:56

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:06:21

"Yes pogs. If someone threw s milkshake at Corbyn and then a comedian said as Jo Brand did, I would find it funny."---

I wouldn't find it funny to throw a milkshake at Corbyn nor would I find it funny for anybody to joke about throwing battery acid over him.

How different we all are.

crystaltipps Thu 13-Jun-19 16:53:45

I think you’ll find people get killed in wars, especially when rifles are involved.
The acid comment was not intended to be literal if we are to take Brand’s word for it, and not remotely funny, but hard.y worth the knicker twisting we see before us since Brand’s political influence is probably close to zero. However, we know Farage has a thuggish element in his following who would not be averse to violence and may well take his words literally whether he meant them or not. That’s the scariest bit,

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:03:50

Lol...as if.

Firecracker123 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:06:54

Actually I think the thuggish element is prevalent on the left side of politics.

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 17:14:54

Farage said in May 2016 'if people feel that voting doesn't change anything then violence is the next step'. Oh and if anyone listens to his taking up rifles speech he is greeted with cheers by his devoted followers.....

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:14:54

The Metropolitan Police are now investigating remarks made by Jo Brand on Radio 4 Heresy program!

Being reported on Sky.com

Rowantree Thu 13-Jun-19 17:26:49

Day6 to paraphrase your earlier comments you accused left-wingers of violence towards those they disagreed with. I was merely pointing out that it was a right-wing extremist who actually carried out a fatal attack on Jo Cox. That is a different ballgame altogether from milkshakes and silly jokes on TV, inadvisable and pointless though they no doubt are.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 17:27:54

Did anybody find Milkshake the Original funny?

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 17:28:44

Does anybody remember Spitting Image? Some of that was very cruel.

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:31:05

firecracker are you including that well known left wing thug Tommy Robinson in your condemnation? Just stop with all your lefty nonsense

Rowantree Thu 13-Jun-19 17:34:04

Labaik I am very scared about the effects of this ridiculous and ill-advised referendum. Since it happened there have been an increase in homophobic and racial attacks and a growing intolerance towards refugees and indeed anyone different. This polarization is dangerous; the genie is out of the bottle and only a genius can put it back.
I fear for the future.
Labaik completely agree.

Rowantree Thu 13-Jun-19 17:36:03

Elvive Yes! I do! and yes, it was. Don't recall anyone complaining about it.
What's Milkshake the Original??

I'd like to say it was a waste of a good milkshake, but that isn't true.

Eloethan Thu 13-Jun-19 17:38:02

I like Jo Brand and think she is usually very funny and insightful.

When judging this remark, I wondered how I would feel if somebody whose I dislike intensely and whose political views I vehemently oppose made the acid throwing remark. My conclusion was that I wouldn't like it as, although it was obviously a joke, it trivialises acts of violence.

It was a joke but, in my opinion, a very ill thought through joke.

Having said that, I still like Jo Brand and hope she is not sacked.

It has given a wonderful opportunity to those constantly blame "lefties" for all the evils of the world - they are, of course the only people to make tasteless jokes or incite and commit acts of violence.

TerriBull Thu 13-Jun-19 17:38:31

The problem is we have had a spate of acid being thrown and the results have been horrific so I don't think it could ever be deemed a laughing matter even with Jo Brand's typically tongue in cheek delivery.

I do like Jo Brand by the way, although I think she has misfired with this one hmm

Have only just come in so haven't read all the other comments but will do so.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 17:46:05

Do you think anybody will be listening to Radio 4 thinking, " She told me to use acid, I'm going to get some and throw it at the next nasty right wing person I see"