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Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

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Alexa Wed 19-Jun-19 09:06:02

Most of the Conservative MPs are intelligent , I must suppose. I am not being sarcastic, I truly dont know why they want Johnson.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-19 11:54:35

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/sensational-email-tory-boss-alleges-16798626

They used these tactics in the House of Commons, but they should learn that it is the politics of the corrupt if they try to use the same tactics throughout the U.K.

craftyone Mon 24-Jun-19 06:39:12

It seems to me that Boris is burnt out but party members will still be voting for him, last chance for the cons on october 31 or the party will be toast as will labour. Brexit party will take control and uphold democracy

We were hoping for a miraculous charismatic person to emerge. Not many will vote for the non entity who has endangered the nhs, no matter how shiny and healthy he looks

Sad state of affairs

jura2 Mon 24-Jun-19 18:33:07

www.businessinsider.fr/us/poll-muslim-islamophobia-among-conservative-party-members-boris-johnson-leadership-2019-6?fbclid=IwAR3ylAP16QLKkh2o9kpy_t03ahQtnQZjRvJAF29cj1vRmgOAxgyJTUm6VYo

M0nica Mon 24-Jun-19 19:36:57

From all I have heard on the radio today and in some papers, the Conservative faithful and quite a number of Conservative MPs are rapidly falling out of love with him.

Anniebach Mon 24-Jun-19 19:53:13

Doesn’t seem only conservatives are drawn to Johnson, several threads , many posts just to talk about him

Welshwife Mon 24-Jun-19 22:00:24

craftyone could you explain to dim old me how the Brexit party could take over when they have no MPs and no one who has any Govt experience?
I assume you must be believing there will be a GE and the Brexit party will have enough majority to form a Govt. Will be interesting to find out what their other manifesto points are.

Urmstongran Mon 24-Jun-19 22:13:15

As long as he delivers on Brexit I don’t care about his sex life.

The women concerned are over 21y.

What does the philandering ex-Prime Minister John Major have to say about having a mistress whilst leading the country? At least Boris is separated and getting a divorce!

Urmstongran Mon 24-Jun-19 22:41:56

Three times married Corbyn has his ex-mistress in his shadow cabinet ! He can't sack her because she knows too much.

suziewoozie Tue 25-Jun-19 00:16:09

I don’t think John Major was a philanderer but it’s an accurate word for Boris Johnson. I find the word mistress quite quaint but I suppose if it’s used correctly it’s used to describe a woman that a man is having a relatively long term relationship with whilst married to and living with his wife. Edwina Currie could be described as a mistress but Diane Abbot and Carrie Symmonds not so. I think on the whole I prefer serial monogamists to serial adulterers

suziewoozie Tue 25-Jun-19 00:18:04

or to adulterers

crystaltipps Tue 25-Jun-19 06:26:50

It’s very upsetting that Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds’s privacy has been invaded once again. This time by a photographer who appears to have been hiding in exactly the right bush to capture a picture of them holding hands to demonstrate their love. Can’t have been stage managed.

crystaltipps Tue 25-Jun-19 06:31:04

I’m sure certain posters will demand to know the political leanings and views on Brexit of the photographer. I bet he was paid by the newspapers too.

MaizieD Tue 25-Jun-19 08:49:42

As long as he delivers on Brexit I don’t care about his sex life.

Jeez. His sex life is the least of our worries. His LYING, LAZINESS and INCOMPETENCE worry me greatly. As do you Leavers who appear to have no moral compass whatsoever (assuming that you even know what 'moral compass' means)

MamaCaz Tue 25-Jun-19 09:22:07

My DH has just told me of a conversation he had with someone before Trump even became president.
The person in question (a farmer, not that it's relevant) joked about the unlikely future scenario where Trump was US president and Boris our prime minister - he said it would be like having "the Chuckle Brothers" in charge!

jura2 Tue 25-Jun-19 09:24:41

crystaltipps - oh surely not, surely not (much ...)

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-19 09:34:56

Boris has said that the UK would unilaterally secure the rights of EU citizens to remain living and working in the UK post Brexit.

Struthruth Tue 25-Jun-19 09:45:48

Boris Johnson is quite a flawed man. It bothers me how he will react if his vision ofBrexit does not materialise. Chickens coming home to roost. There is a limit to self delusion and denial.
It also bothers me that to cope with the momentous decisions he will have to make he would benefit from a stable family life. It seems as if his relationship is fairly new not properly tested and perhaps he hasn’t come to terms with his wife ending their marriage. Not the best place to be when taking on leader of country going through its own divorce.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-19 09:53:02

struthruth

Johnson has been unfaithful so many times he’s got it off to a fine art now so I would not worry on that score.

It is just that lying seems to have become a way of life with him such that his moral platform is void of any dignity or reliability.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-19 10:21:33

We are always being told that Liberal Democrat’s are all about gentle politics and it’s the “nasty leavers”........any thoughts on this???

HildaW Tue 25-Jun-19 10:38:36

I find it bizarre that people feel its ok to separate out a person's 'private' life from their 'public' one. I am using the inverted commas because I feel its a ridiculous concept. we are all who we are......we are either trustworthy or not.
To be honest having deceitful politicians is not a new thing, and in many ways that's not the problem. What we have nowadays are politicians gaining and maintaining power much more for their own self aggrandisement and profit. I see very few in power who are actually taking stock of what the electorate wants, charting a course and carrying out a policy they believe in and truly feel is for the good of the country. At the moment all we have are people out for themselves and the folks they consider are 'in their gang'.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 25-Jun-19 20:25:27

Crystaltips it's an old photo. Could it be from Johnson's album - or his girlfriend's? I don't think that's a worry. The fact that the man appears to be barking most definitely is.

M0nica Tue 25-Jun-19 21:36:31

GG13 Yes, both sides have supporters that think that the other side are 'nasty'. Pots calling kettles black, as far as I am concerned.

M0nica Tue 25-Jun-19 21:57:33

For most politicians their private lives are private and should stay that way, but now and again, you get politicians where there private lives are so messy and/or public that, one cannot but ask as to what that tells you about the general way they conduct their life in private or public.

Cecil Parkinson's behaviour after he was caught out with a pregnant mistress, said a lot about him, none of it to his credit, he paid her off (he could afford to) and had absolutely nothing to do with his daughter after she was born, even when she was diagnosed with disabilities. Never saw her, or expressed anything but cold indifference.

Boris is much the same, two marriages down and a third in the offing, constant infidelities, one acknowledged love-child and much talk of at least one more. This fits with innumerable stories of his capacitiy as a liar on matters large and small. His close friendship with Darius Guppy, a convicted fraudster, who asked him to get a journalist's address because he wanted them to have something nasty happen to them. Boris didn't do it but, he evaded giving him a direct refusal.

As Max Hastings has said examples of two enduring facets of his character: first, he will say absolutely anything to man, woman or child that will give them pleasure at that moment, heedless of whether he may be obliged to contradict it ten minutes later. Second, having registered his wild-card status as a brand, he exploits it to secure absolution for a procession of follies, gaffes, idiocies and scoundrelisms, such as would destroy the career of any other man or woman in journalism, never mind government.

In fact Max Hasting's whole article is worth reading.
www.maxhastings.com/2018/the-english-love-a-buffoon-but-the-boris-johnson-joke-went-tragically-wrong/

Could anyone vote for this man to be Prime Minster?

Callistemon Tue 25-Jun-19 22:18:53

Many of the Lib Dems were/are no better than others in their private lives, GrannyGravy.
Look at all the scandals.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 26-Jun-19 09:49:39

I did know we were expecting the Lib Dems to thrust a sexually incontinent liar on us as PM Callistemon. When did that happen?