Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

They like him because they are all like children.
They like the class clown until his antics mean they lose their playtime!!

ug I actually am not sure you are right with regard to Johnson.

Remember, he could have equally gone to the remain camp. He chose leave because he considered at the time that this was his best chance of getting the premiership. It has taken longer than he thought but it looks as if he will eventually get it.

Don’t be so certain that he will deliver Brexit as expected. If you have been paying attention to what he has said recently, it is by no means certain what he intends to do, and I suspect the ERG are beginning to understand that. Their only hope is that 5hey can pressurise Johnson I tondoing things their way, but I honestly don’t think he is the pushover that May was in trying to appease all sides. He will say the things they all want to hear until after his coronation, but who knows the course he will take after that?

No the reason anyone says that they don’t think Johnson would be a good prime minister, is because if his record and everything that has been said on all the treads.

GN has finally appeared to more or less all agree on one thing.

Johnson is not suitable to be this countries Prime Minister. Our great country deserves better.

THIS IS A RECORD ????

We don’t dislike Boris because “we fear he will deliver Brexit”, we dislike him because of the numerous reasons given ( untrustworthy, liar, engages mouth before brain, ego maniac etc etc), the only hope is that, given he’s known for u turns and deceit, and he’s not as dim as some of the others, he may decide to soften up his Brexit stance to one that matches reality.

There may not even be that many Whitewave, although it is certain they have been topped up by Brexit Party members. I just remind myself that Hitler was not swept to power on a wave of public support nor in a bold and decisive move to snatch control of the chancellorship, it was done through shady backroom deals and it seems this country will fall to such connivance too.

Yes gg3 there are rumours that backroom deals are being done by Johnson supporters in order to manipulate who comes up against him in the countrywide hustings.

Country’s

Even in the Torygraph WW, so it must be true

It was always the case that Brexit was a right-wing power grab and I am now seeing reports of chants of "Tommy Robinson" and "Brexit" at Trump rallies.

Are you saying that pensioners who may be living in poverty, young families who need to use foodbanks, the homeless, anyone needing the NHS etc, ie anyone in this country in need should not be helped then, Elvive?

No I have never said that,why would I? I think it's a very dangerous situation where this us/them situation is creeping in and being whipped up by certain people.

Well done Apricity...QED..a classic case of hari-kari

Actually harakiri - I&E - perhaps scope more of the latter?

Revenge is best served cold

www.theweek.co.uk/101848/revenge-in-the-air-as-boris-supporters-plot-against-gove

Not just revenge.

If Gove doesn’t get enough votes to get into the final two this evening, Boris will be more than pleased as he knows the Conservative party members will, by a majority, want a Brexiteer.

Boris therefore would rather it was a choice for them between him and (closet Remainer) Hunt.

Clever.

Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte has dismissed central Brexit promises from the remaining Tory leadership contenders, as he claimed the UK will be a "diminished" country after leaving the EU.

In a sobering interview for the four candidates vying for the Conservative crown, Mr Rutte rejected proposals such as a renegotiation of Theresa May's withdrawal agreement, and a time-limit to the contentious Irish backstop.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-leadership-race-mark-rutte-netherlands-boris-johnson-gove-javid-a8966751.html

I saw the Rutte interview. It was measured, and very scary. We must all hope that Boris either excels in a way he has never before achieved; or that he cocks up spectacularly pretty early on so we all get a say...

Mark Rutte, whose first language is not English, was able to explain the true situation far more clearly than any UK politician still trying to defend the indefensible.

agreed varian, he was calm, succinct, straight to the point.

Former Tory MP Matthew Parris, writing in the right-wing Spectator magazine, despairs that so many Tories, people he previously thought to be resistant to the appeal of Boris Johnson, are now supporting him, presumably to advance their own careers. He writes-

"There’s no need for further evidence about this man. And the fact there’s no need is the reason for the most profound despair. The case is proved already, his allies privately concede it without demur, and more proof is redundant. Colleagues know he’s no good, know he’s a cold-eyed scoundrel. They require no persuading of his inappropriateness to lead a nation through difficult times. Reel off the list of his incapacities and they yawn because they agree, and their opinion of the man hasn’t changed in years. What has changed is their opinion of his future usefulness to their own careers. One always knew there existed such eels in our House of Commons; but what I never knew was that they amount to half the membership of the parliamentary Conservative party. More fool me — and I do mean that."

www.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/why-are-sensible-tories-backing-boris-johnson/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_content=220619_Weekly_Highlights_24_Fisher&utm_campaign=Weekly_Highlights

I completely agree with you Nanniejcl.

Matthew Parris was hinting that there was more to be revealed about BJ a few nights ago on Newsnight. You could see him struggling to contain his dislike. It is interesting that it is not just what some on here would call 'lefties' who are uncomfortable with the idea of BJ as PM, Sir Max Hastings can hardly be described as such.

Boris? This situation is incomprehensible. How can this be happening? ?

I wonder if the rest of the country are feeling appalled?

Johnson got his revenge

Good Spectator article linked above.

This is why Boris is liked so much..he advances an argument rather than as you have done to simply try to attack an individuals perceived qualities

Haha - welcome to the Politics threads, Impatialandeducated.

It's a bear-pit and it's very sad that many posts are aggressive. More people would venture in if we could agree to disagree. Expect more of the same, unfortunately.

And thank you for saying we are seeing democracy in action, more than ever before, all over Europe and in the USA. People are sick of an elite telling them what is best for them, when it is obvious politicians are either out of touch or just not listening. The establishment is running scared, and rightly so..

A brand new party in the UK has had astounding success at the polls because it recognises that people are sick to death of being ignored, overlooked, and dismissed as knowing nothing.

Labour and the Conservatives, and the two party system we have are not what we want any longer. They are not serving the electorate. They are serving themselves. Socialism a la Jeremy Corbyn and and his band of hard left comrades is a non-starter and by defying Leave voters and arranging a dreadful deal with EU politicians, May has betrayed the UK.

Unless her successor delivers Brexit, I'd say the Tories will be decimated and wait a very long time before they are trusted to run the country again.

Sadly, we have Hobson's Choice at the moment. If BJ wins the vote he'll be at the helm, with Corbyn waiting for him to cock up. I don't have much faith in Johnson. His job, if he doesn't already know it, is to win over Leave voters because otherwise, come the next GE, the Conservatives will lose even more seats and the Brexit Party will win hands down.

That will be a protest by the people, and yes, that will be democracy in action. It's about time the people made some noise.

Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte has dismissed central Brexit promises from the remaining Tory leadership contenders, as he claimed the UK will be a "diminished" country after leaving the EU.

Ha ha ha. Priceless.

A supporter of the EU and minister of one of the countries within the EU tells the UK, that is about to get out of a corrupt and expensive institution, that it won't fare well.

Does he appreciate that by being IN the EU we have become a diminished country? (And that's why the majority of us want to get out, before the whole thing crumbles, as it will, along with its dodgy currency.)

I don’t perceive of us having been a diminished country - apart from loosing an empire and we’re not going to get that back anytime soon thank goodness, and apart from the Brexit madness which certainly has diminished us.
The Brexit party isn’t a “brand new party” we know it’s UKIP rebranded with same leader, voters, message.