Will the web being woven, hold?

Someone born in 1974 who claims to remember rationing seems to be the most confused one round here, lemon

Alistair Campbell has been open about his mental health problems and dependence/misuse of alcohol. He sought treatment and became abstinent.
I admire him, enjoy his contribution to debates and his personal honesty.

A 'Spokesman' or 'Director of Communications' is upfront and in the public eye. Bernard Ingham, Mrs Thatcher's press secretary, among other PM press secretary have always had high profiles.

Advisors should be grey and anonymous. If Cummings is getting drunk and being seen to be drunk, then like Campbell, he is heading for a car crash, real or metaphoric.

I could be wrong here, but I think Campbell had sorted out his problems before he became Labour's Director of Communications. AFAIK he didn't wander round Westminster smelling of alcohol. Cummings is Johnson's personal adviser, whereas Campbell and Ingham worked for the whole party.

Boris should leave the EU today with No Deal before the new law comes in on Monday. No need to wait until Oct 31st.

He's at Balmoral with the Queen.

Leavers really do want to destroy the UK in the eyes of the world, don't they?

As I recall, A50 says that the country leaving the EU should do so in accordance with its constitutional requirements. Flouncing out with absolutely no parliamentary agreement isn't complying with that. It would be breaking a number of international treaties and leaving trading partners in limbo. It would also send a strong message that the UK is a completely untrustworthy partner. Who on earth would want to do trade deals with a country which thinks it is above the law?

Is it really worth it?

I absolutely cannot understand the mentality of people who think that it is.

MazieD. I so agree with your 10:08 posting. Some of the posts on this thread display a total disregard for the welfare of our fellow citizens and a similar disregard for our European cousins.

I fail to understand why any nation other than maybe a banana republic, or Trump 's administration, would choose to make a treaty with a nation such as ours, who under the brexitears are willing to break undertaking that our governments have made over fairly recent times to undertake payments and responsibilities to our partners of 40 years.

Honour it seems is not be part of the post Brexit Britain.

Yes, you are wrong growstuff.

MaizeD - another one here, in support of your post at 10.08. I simply can't understand those who want simple solutions to complex problems.
I'm sure we share exhaustion and frustration at the situation we're in but, in many ways, we're seeing democracy in action. We vote in our MPs and pay them to do what they believe is in our best interests, that is best for the country. We don't pay them, as I hear some say, to get on with it, to do what we voted for. The leave vote was by a relatively small number. I voted Remain but was prepared to accept that Leave had it. Three years on, we're in a somewhat different landscape. I'm genuinely uncertain about the best way forward but I'm certain sure, it isn't by a No Deal.
We were told £350m for the NHS and that leaving would be easy. Neither of those things bear any resemblance to the truth. We have a PM, appointed by a small number of largely old, posh, wealthy, white men. They do not represent me. They don't represent my children or our country.
I'm relieved the opposition parties are working together. I feel shocked at the dismissal of 21 Conservative MPs, especially as most of them have served our country over many many years. Does that count for nothing>. Can we dismiss Ken Clarke and co as meaningless. I fear for our future if that\s the case
AND I'm not a tory!

What am I wring about lemongrove? Please explain.

According to Wiki, Alastair Campbell claims to have given up alcohol in 1986 and was teetotal in 1994, when he started working for Tony Blair? Do you know differently lemongrove?

wring = wrong (typo)

Yesterday someone described the Leavers who want to leave with the EU without a deal, and that does not include all leavers as ^turkeys that haven't just voted for Christmas but made the cranberry sauce and the stuffing and pushed it up their own a***s. A bit crude and vulgar, but to the point.

Do none of those supporting 'No deal' have children and grandchildren who may lose their jobs, - and possibly their homes and families- as a result of a no deal exit from Europe?

Both my children have jobs which benefit from being in the EU. One is a university lecturer, whose department receives funding from the EU for Erasmus scholarships and multinational research projects. The other is a scientist in a research centre doing the edge of technology research which will help find solutions to combat global warming. They again work with other EU partners and get EU funding.

This funding will end with Brexit. Who cares about global warming when you can choose to be a very small country in a very big world. Anyone who believes anything Donald Trump, or anyone in his administration says about trade agreements lives in cloud cuckoo land. The US will screw us, because that is what they do.

Iam64 ...no one told you £350 million for the NHS.

It was not written that way on the Bus, the famous Bus ??

It was stated by all Brexit people AND on the Bus we COULD use the money for the NHS, if that is where we decided to put it, but as Farage, and all other Brexit proponents said at the time it could be used WHEREVER NEEDED.

Brexit; the result of a flawed and bent referendum characterised by deceit and lies with no mention of how it was going to be implemented...

The vote leave leaflet said we 'could' use the money for the NHS.However, correct me if I'm wrong but the actual bus said 'Let's fund the NHS instead'. Now, imo that is saying' let us fund the NHS instead not 'we might fund the NHS instead'...which most people would interpret as 'we will fund the NHS instead'.

exactly - clear as a bell. LIES.

MOnica According to one poster, science and Erasmus won't be affected by Brexit. I was called a liar for suggesting that they would be.

Let's..not 'could'...

And that looks awfully like Johnson in front of the bus, so presumably he endorsed the message.

I must have missed the disclaimer in the national press, in which Cummings and Johnson apologised for inadvertently misleading the public.

I honestly think some Leavers think all Remainers are stupid.

They certainly think that we don't have memories, that's for sure...

I'm surprised Johnson hasn't edited it with a Sharpie pen, like Trump was alleged to have done with a weather map.

Amber Rudd has resigned the Conservative whip and will be voting as an independent on Monday.