Will the web being woven, hold?

That was always a possibility....it doesn’t need Norman Smith to have come up with that before you thought of it surely?
It places Labour in the position of back tracking on their assertion of ‘yes! Bring it on’ about a GE even though Corbyn and R Long-Bailey were saying that yesterday.
They would be fools to agree to an election ( and they wouldn't win it anyway) but there are still all sorts of things that could happen.

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Jon Worth

Labour's line - we will give Johnson his General Election if No Deal is taken off the table - is precisely the right one.

That is not a U-Turn. That is putting in place a safety mechanism as Johnson betrayed trust having done the prorogation.
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Jonathan Lis
Exactly this. Labour can very easily say ‘we won’t hand the reins to Boris Johnson - we need to stop no-deal’. It’ll show integrity. It also forces Johnson either to follow parliament’s extension orders or resign as PM. Labour would be mad to hand over control and do his bidding.

This is not a u turn !!!???

Comment on Tory strategy - the government that is, not the other Tory party.

David Allen Green

So Boris Johnson may have become Prime Minister but at the cost of:

- never having a parliamentary majority
- never being able to call a general election
- watching impotently as EU membership is extended again and again

If so, it would be such a beautiful, poetic outcome

And had he not made the "genius" blunder of prorogation he may have got No Deal through

But that, at a stroke, energised and unified opposition

Well done, Dominic Cummings

Corbyn and Long Bailey were saying bring on an election just Yesterday ?

And we are off

UK House of Commons
@HouseofCommons
· 14m
An application for an #emergencydebate on the European Union (Withdrawal) has been submitted. The Speaker will consider it later today. If successful, the debate takes precedence over today's scheduled business under Standing Order 24.
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmagenda/OP190903so24.pdf

Anyone else feeling a bit sick at the realisation that the future of our wonderful country depends on what happens over the next few days?

hold on a minute .we don't need another referendum.had the vote for the EU gone the other way .would us leavers get a 2nd vote .no we wouldn't .we never asked for a deal with the EU to leave the EU. what a mess this government is...bunch of over paid clowns/!!!

Voters were told in the leaflets.that we would not be leaving without a deal...

Some who voted leave appear to have very short memories.

Led by Donkeys are doing a great job reminding them.

I see the donkeys ( asses!) as the rebel MPs.

Oh dear

Some folk have been brainwashed for many years and it is very difficult to get them to wake up and see that, but Led by Donkeys are doing a great job.

Mogg is so much up himself it’s a wonder we can hear him talk.

What an utter twit he is.

I have to say WWM2 that I do like the title of this thread.
Rather literary.

Cheers lemon

I think this is very true

Robert Peston
However eloquent
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg
may be, I am not sure he has caught the mood of the House with his attack on Tory rebels as flouting parliamentary convention and the constitution. He is stiffening the resolve of the rebels: "JRM is utterly winding up the house. His arrogance..
is staggering" says one.
@BorisJohnson
may end up losing by a bigger margin than he initially thought

Have you ever seen anyone who admires themselves more!!?

Having just seen Labours plans for a "share grab" anyone with a property, limited company, pension fund invested in a company about to be re-nationalised, be afraid be very afraid.

(I have not posted a link as it is all over the "twitter sphere" and internet"

My daughter works for a company that gives and sells shares to its staff. She has thousands now and it works splendidly. It gives the staff a real stake I. Their company and a vested interest in its success.

This

Nick Robinson
Not long ago
@jeremycorbyn
faced a crisis trapped between Remainers & Leavers and was shunned by other opposition parties. Now he’s able to stand up for democracy, work with a cross-party alliance & appear statesmanlike. Is that what people mean by No 10’s new strategic genius?

It would seem that the Tory Lords are going to attempt to filibuster.

I got shares in my company every year, but the shares were given to me and were mine and how many I got from year to year as they were paid out of profits.

The Labour plan is very different. The shares will not be given to staff, just the dividends. Share capital has to be increased by 10% and put in a separate fund that pays out the dividends to workers each year. For the workers it will be peanuts, may be £50 - 100 each year at most.

What is more, more shares do not mean that the company has increased in value, it merely means that the value is spread over more shares, so share holders, many of them pension funds and insurance companies, will see their shares drop in value, as will dividends because they have, again be spread out over more shares. Pension funds will then, probably fall into deficit because their assets will be worth less with smaller incomes to distribute, which means pensioners whose incomes come from those pension and insurance companies will see their occupational/private pension rises fall behind inflation.

Is that really what John McDonell intended, take money from pensioners to pay over to those still working regardless of their income?

Sorry to go off OP.

Back to the OP

Perhaps Mogg could bring in his bed as I’m sure he’d feel more comfortable

Monica explanation much clearer than mine (Sorry watching Bake off)