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Will the web being woven, hold?

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Sept-19 08:18:05

Cummings game plan seems to be on course.

The tiny majority will be rendered a minority at a stroke by Cummings threat to take the whip away from any Tory rebels.

Johnson has then scapegoats to blame for his failure to deliver a brexit deal, and an excuse to go for a GE.

Labour will then fall in with the game plan by holding a VONC and a GE looks a distinct possibility sometime in Oct.
Johnson will fight it as the people v the elite who failed to deliver the democratic vote. (Bannon writ large)

The U.K. will then crash out on Nov 1st. No attempt is being made by Cummings to get a deal and in any case his contact finishes on Oct 31st.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 15:39:13

Many Tory mps getting very worried that the Tory party is sliding to the right.

MPs? I wonder what they have been doing over the last few weeks/months?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 16:06:26

Studying their own navels?

Pantglas1 Thu 05-Sept-19 16:08:15

Ignoring their constituents.....

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 16:29:14

This from the chair of the BMA

Helena McKeown

Dangerous behaviour by @Jacob_Rees_Mogg slandering the highly respected NHS consultant & whistleblower @djnicholl. Our research @TheBMA supports the doctor. Who do you trust? A doctor or a politician? Remember the bus. twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1169580905939296256

M0nica Thu 05-Sept-19 16:40:57

Just as I read the news of Jo Johnson's resignation, I saw the report's of Nicholas Soames' rsignation speech. It contained the following paragraph

I want to make clear that I have always believed that the referendum result must be honoured, and indeed I have voted for the withdrawal agreement on every occasion that it has been presented to the house.

Which is more than can be said for my right-honourable friend the Prime Minister, the Leader of the House and other members of the Cabinet whose serial disloyalty has been an inspiration for so many of us

Nicholas Soames has never been a man I have warmed to, but on this occasion he has risen to the level of his grandfather, Sir Winston Churchill in his ability to find exactly the right words for the occasion.

Still, to lower the tone, we now have our two major parties governed by men, who, as back benchers had a history of continual disloyalty to their party but once in power have become as intolerant of dissent as any dictator.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 17:04:48

Fascinating interview on Sky News with the journalist/writer Sonia Purnell who used to work with Johnson. She spoke of his temper and said she was quite scared of him. Also that, with him, it was all about achieving power and he wasn't too bothered about what he did with that power. And, regarding that poor little dog that has been delivered to him, he once said he didn't like pets. I hope I haven't misquoted what she said as I didn't write it down word for word. Either way, it wasn't a very flattering description of the man.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 17:07:03

I have to agree with your last paragraph, MOnica and it's the main reason why I have struggled with supporting Corbyn over the past few years.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 17:07:41

Sounds the most horrible character.

Not surprised about the dog, he isn’t bothered about his children of various parentage is he?

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 17:11:20

She spoke about them also, and reinforced things I'd heard about his relationship [or lack of] with his children. She said Marina used to keep him in check, so that is now lacking in his life.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 17:14:23

Of course there is also the Miller court case taking place. Not sure she is going to win tbh

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 17:20:48

Election speech by Johnson on news. Burble burble, waffle piffle piffle.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 17:29:44

How embarrassing; what a bumbling idiot. Still refusing questions from Ch4 I believe,,,

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 17:46:02

'Ooooh! Think about some more of them would you please, Labaik if that's the effect your thoughts have'....oh crikey; as I was watching bumbly thing's speech, the S.O. turned up and I said to him 'how long have those poor police people been stood there ' and then added 'I'd love one of them to faint' at which point, one of them did'. I hasten to add that I don't wish harm on any police person but thought it was very unfair of bumbly thing to use them in that way [scared of my own powers now....shock]….

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 17:48:22

Well on that performance the Tories must be quaking in their shoes at the thought of an election.

An embarrassing rant which made no sense.

Then to top it all a poor young policewoman collapsed behind him, probably at the awful realisation that she was listening to the uks Prime Minister.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 17:49:35

labaik???

I feel you power. Be careful or Johnson will try to pinch some of it.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 18:02:23

...just don't upset me, WWM2...grin

Urmstongran Thu 05-Sept-19 18:03:51

A Scottish judge has ruled that Boris Johnson’s planned shutdown of Parliament next week is a matter for politicians, not the courts, and is lawful.

Lord Doherty said it was not up to the courts to intervene in a matter of “high policy or political judgment” as he rejected a bid to suspend the five-week prorogation.

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 18:05:48

I have always thought that Johnson would never make a good PM, however I do applaud him for trying ( at least) to uphold the referendum result/ get us out, instead of this painful waiting game which is terrible for the UK.
Things in Parliament, not just in government, are sliding into chaos.
Whatever I think of Johnson as a PM though, has nothing to do with all the posts (above) about his relationship with his children or whether he likes pets or not.Who cares?
What matters is what he achieves( or doesn’t achieve) politically.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 18:11:12

A Scottish judge has ruled that Boris Johnson’s planned shutdown of Parliament next week is a matter for politicians, not the courts, and is lawful. (Thu 05-Sep-19 18:03:51)

An appeal against the ruling is expected, and similar cases are to be heard in Northern Ireland and England.

MaizieD Thu 05-Sept-19 18:11:53

A Scottish judge has ruled that Boris Johnson’s planned shutdown of Parliament next week is a matter for politicians, not the courts, and is lawful.

It's going to Appeal, Ug where it is possible that the judge's decision may be overruled.

The same judge ruled that A50 couldn't be unilaterally revoked but the ruling was overturned on Appeal.

So let's not anyone get too excited yet...

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 18:14:54

Labaik, I heard the interview and it was as you described.

I have just been listening to two journalists talking about Dominic Cummings. I'm stuck for words really. What a thoroughly nasty example of humanity - and they were trying really hard to put a balanced picture of the man.

Fennel Thu 05-Sept-19 18:25:11

A surprising comment from La Depeche, a local french newspaper. :
"Le titre est légèrement racoleur, mais l'article narre un Parlement vivant, à l'instar du notre lors des questions diverses.
S'y rajoutent le flegme et l'humour british, les amateurs de Monty Python apprécieront ...
.'Racoleur' promotional.
narre - relates
L'instar - like others.
Sounds like they've lost interest. I don't blame them.

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 18:28:04

Does anyone seriously think that any political advisors are ‘nice’ ?

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 18:29:13

...' or whether he likes pets or not'. lemon; it matters because it proves he is just using that poor little dog as a pawn in his own personal game of thrones, that's why.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 18:33:08

'Does anyone seriously think that any political advisors are ‘nice’ ?'...I don't expect them to be nice, but would prefer them to give advice that doesn't harm the country socially and economically.