Well that’s it. We’re not leaving the EU. The people in charge won’t allow it.

Boris is showing great leadership. The whinging undemocratic remoaners have ground this country down, just wait while momentum and commies get a foothold. Remoaners are fully to blame and will get their come uppance and P45s at the ballot box.

Fgs the tone of some posts on here defies belief.

1. The motion proposed today requests an extension of only 3 months - not years.

2. The motion is to stop a 'no deal' Brexit, not to stop Brexit.

3. The labour party is set to vote against BJ's motion for an election on Oct 14th because their top rpiority is to stop 'no deal'. That means, under the fixed-term parliament rules, that BJ won't be able to call that election.

4. Despite BJ's protestations that this will thwart his negotiations for a new deal, the EU say that he has not made any new proposals, i.e. is not actually negotiating.

5. A deal cannot be struck at the G7 meeting.

I'm inclined to agree with you craftyone .

For the record I voted remain but stand by the democratic decision albeit with a heavy heart .

The motion proposed today requests an extension of only 3 months - not years

Ha ha and you believe that do you humptydumpty ? what on earth do they hope to achieve in 2-3 months that they couldn't in 3 years ?

Will a General Election substantially change very much at all? So far the EU has held the bargaining counters in this process and continues to keep to its own plan.

Maybe TM's deal will be resurrected, who knows? Presumably that period of time was chosen for a reason.

I can understand why some people would feel the "wishes of the people" are being thwarted by those who can't accept the result of the referendum.

However, I think the point is that the whole process of leaving the EU, the making of new "deals", the Irish issue, etc, etc, were not properly addressed and, in some cases, not addressed at all. Additionally, it was presented as an inevitability that we would secure a good deal with the EU because it would be in both parties' interests and the EU were desperate to establish some sort of trade deal with us.

As the months and years go by, there is more and more evidence that leaving is not the simple process that people like Liam Fox said it would be. There are major concerns about all sorts of issues, including shortages of food and medicine, shortages of labour, the effects on research and development when we are outside of the EU umbrella, the reliance on the US for trade deals and an associated decline in health and safety standards for food, the problems arising with Ireland and Scotland, etc. None of these issues had been properly discussed prior to the referendum - I think both the leave and the remain campaigns were ill thought out and badly presented, relying on people's gut instincts rather than on facts.

As for those who think we are in a strong position as a country to make all these magnificent deals with all these other nations who are straining at the leash to trade with us, I'm wondering where they've been living for the last few years. The situation in this country re health, education, justice, employment, industrial output, housing, etc, etc, is absolutely dire, this government having run all of them into the ground. There is nothing to demonstrate that we have in place a team of competent people who can make good decisions for the country. Virtually every infrastructure project has been mismanaged in terms of cost and benefit and every tightening of the purse strings has caused a decline in many people's physical and mental health and all sorts of associated social problems that have had ongoing costly repercussions. Our government appears incapable of running this country effectively and to imagine that it has the ability to deal with momentous change effectively is very questionable.

Joelsnan - 'the mass influx of people has resulted in an infrastructure overload.'

Agreed - the lack of housing is a serious problem. Do we want unlimited EU immigration when there aren't enough homes for those already here? We have too many people!

Barmyoldbat, I'm probably wrong on this but BJ is playing a blinder to set himself firmly in No 10.
Because the majority voted to Leave BJ is appeasing those, for the time being, by insisting Leave in order to gain his majority should their be a GE. He'll win and he knows he will.
But------once in power as a leader who's been voted in he could very well do a U-turn.

Put it this way, if Corbyn had stood up to Leave, he too would win a majority for leadership because of existing Labour followers making up the numbers.

Because of the debacle that the Conservative government is facing and the shambles within its party, their votes in a " normal " GE would be minimal and they'd lose heavily.

What BJ is doing is fighting for power for himself and his only saving grace, against his better judgement, is to " go with the flow " as I'd said, to appease those who voted Leave.

We'll see ! It's NOT in his interest to Leave, mark my words.

A GE would have to be made possible ASAP !!

I am appalled at some of the hysterical outpourings here and by some of the war-like vocabulary.
Surely people can see that Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg are at fault by their lack of transparency and untrustworthy behaviour. I was angry at the double standards shown yesterday by the expulsion of long standing members of the Conservative Party by the bully boy ruling of those who themselves had voted against their party not once but several times.

Insults, talk of “treason and traitors”, and references to the second world war must be removed from the Brexit debate, say moderate Conservative MPs attempting to curb politicians’s increasingly inflammatory rhetoric.

Despairing at the way some MPs are willing to say anything that will go viral on social media and earn attention, they are asking colleagues to sign up to a code of conduct to stop the worst excesses.

The move comes after Mark Francois, Tory MP for Rayleigh and Wickford and pro-Brexit European Research Group member, said “up yours” in a radio interview to chancellor Philip Hammond in cabinet.

The second world war has been raised on several occasions. Daniel Kawczynski, Tory MP for Shrewsbury and Atcham, recently complained that an “ungrateful EU” had not considered the fact the Britain “helped to liberate half of Europe”.

A senior police officer has raised concerns about the language being used. Martin Hewitt, chairman of the National Police Chiefs’ Council, said that politicians should not “inflame” tensions created by Brexit. Several politicians have also complained of the stress they are facing as a result of the Brexit process.

The text of a pledge is due to be finalised after a meeting on Monday of the new 50-strong One Nation caucus of Tory MPs formed to counter the ERG, but it will commit signatories to acting even-handedly, respectfully and generously.

Nicky Morgan, the former education secretary who is on the group’s board, said the code of conduct was intended to “return normal debate to the airwaves”.

“We are living through unprecedented times, with many members unable to spend as much time with the families as they would like to and it’s not at all helpful to everyday hear people – albeit a minority - competing to be the loudest and boldest,” she said. “So today the One Nation Caucus will pledge that all members will engage only in constructive, polite and respectful discourse.

“In particular, I think we need to drop all the references to world war two – politics has always been full of ‘battle ready’ language which just isn’t the way most people talk anyway. But in the current climate, it simply encourages those listening to talk about treason and traitors, which adds to the toxic nature of the debate.

“We hope this is the beginning of a change in tone at Westminster and invite all members to sign our pledge.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/07/one-nation-tories-urge-mps-dial-down-brexit-rhetoric

This article pleading for an end to inflammatory rhetoric was written n April this year. Yeaterday 21 "One Nation Tories" were sacked and one resigned to join the LibDems. Where is Nicky Morgan now????

After a lot of dithering because I couldn't make up my mind I voted Leave. We sat up all night watching the results fully expecting Remain to win. Neither of us would have been all that disappointed and life would have gone on as normal.

Initially we were pleased that Leave won. It was a democratic vote and I honestly thought we would LEAVE. Whether or not we had a deal didn't enter my thoughts because that's not what I voted for.

Now I feel three years has been totally wasted. It's no longer about democracy, it's about squabbling politicians and a hopeless government.

If there is another referendum I won't vote. I will probably get up the next morning hoping Remain has won so we can just get on with life as it was. That won't happen though. The argy bargy will just go on and on and on. Will we ever have a government that can sort out this sorry mess?

Hang your head in shame, David Cameron.

I was born in a free country and I'd hoped to die in a free country. But it looks less and less likely. What happened to democracy?

Recognisable by their shaven heads, Britain First T-shirts and xenophobia

Not all of them look like that. They look like kindly grannies worried about their GC.

I like many others voted Remain, however my choice lost the referendum! Despite that, I agree the democratic way forward is we must leave and if there was another vote I would vote leave.

My opinion on No Deal is that by removing this from the table means that the EU leaders will be laughing their heads off at us. The only chance of getting a decent deal was to leave no deal on the table. EU leaders now know that we won’t leave unless we give in to them and this is a disaster for the U.K. and weakens our position considerably!

To be honest if I was bojo I would give Sturgeon her wish of a new Scottish independence referendum, as without Scotland, the Conservative Party will have a majority in Parliament! Sturgeon keeps going on about Scotland being ruled by Westminster, whereas the truth has been that it has been the Scottish MP’s who have previously prevented the Conservatives being in power!
This situation would break my heart as I am Scottish, live in Scotland and do NOT want independence from the rest of the U.K. and then to ruled by the EU, if Sturgeon (how I loathe that woman) got her own way!

@gillybob
I know there is nothing “funny” about the current situation, but have to admit to a chuckle about your description of Jeremy Corbyn......*“All we have is a half wit weasel of a leader who's ar*e must be covered in splinters”*?

Barmeyoldbat have I touched a nerve about Corbyn being a hyprocrite tough.

Remainers are hyprocrites as well its obviously this latest fiasco is about stopping Brexit fullstop.

Are you a fan of Corbyn. Hyprocrite by association then.

It's a shame May didn't vote against the government and we could have got rid of her as well.

*Firecracker that is a ludicrous comment, as is your accusation of hypocricy by JC. He has made it clear - along with other opposion leaders - that the reason they don't want an election on BJ's terms, i.e. before Oct 31, is to ensure that a 'no deal' exit is blocked. Instead of spouting on about his hypocricy, how about applauding his restraint in the greater interests of the country.

Joelsnan I would be happier if Jacob Rees-Mogg paid Corporation Tax and contributed a bit to the country he represents. Now who is a hypocrite?

Corbyn only wants what's best for Corbyn.

@GrannyGravy13
You are 100% correct. All those MP’s who are voting for their views, rather than their constituents’ views are the problem.

Of course they won’t want a GE. Their constituents put them in Parliament to REPRESENT THEIR VIEWS, not to stick two fingers up to these constituents and choose to vote as they like, which is completely against said constituents wishes!
Really hope they find themselves well and truly dumped at the next election!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7425855/Tories-taunt-Jeremy-Corbyn-running-scared-snap-election.html

Got it in one Boris.

Firecracker I really dislike your use of inflammatory language, words like traitor treason and references to war time used by you and others on here is tiresome and offensive to be honest. I am not a traitor, I voted as I saw fit, some MPs voted last night as they saw fit and as their consciences dictated, your furious condemnation of anyone who does not think as you do is not helpful to debate