Why are "Leavers" so angry?

If you like, jura

Once we’ve implemented the result of the first one of course!

Actually wasn’t a second referendum one of the indicative votes that was voted down by MP’s? It really really isn’t going to happen you know. But I daresay, deep down you do realise you’re hoping against hope there.

It’s all too late now people.

We leave in 33 days.

I t is true though, Lemongrove - whenever a real fact is posted, or a link to a primary source for something that has been misunderstood by those who want to leave, there is a deafening silence from 99% of them. They say that they considered carefully before voting, but wear However, rants and rages go back and forth freely and with gusto.

No, Urmstongran I didn't mean "left" I meant what I said, as I always do, and I said "even"handed.

I think it’s a case of leavers not having anything to prove, whilst remainers are constantly on the hunt for facts and figures ( not always accurate!) for something to show how awful life will be outside the EU.
There is plenty to read ( if wanted) either online or from books without the copious links to (partisan) articles or pundits from either side.

The doorbell rang in the middle of typing a post and it got posted too soon by mistake. It should have read "They say that they considered carefully before voting, but many don't seem to have looked at the ^sources of what they assume are facts. Often, these can be traced back to something quite different to what the media have reported gleefully.

Amazon are now selling the imaginatively named "My little notebook of all the Brexiteers I would like to stab" a mere £4.05. Yes I know not good! Ordering stuff of Amazon but can you get it in the high street?

Can't help feeling such a publication might give some credence to the title thread of why "Leavers are so Angry"

Elegran it may have been a Freudian slip, but you did type the word ‘left’ in your earlier post.I assumed it meant ‘leave’.

That's horrific TerriBull. But I haven't come across any Remains who has actually said such things.
I was wondering about the threats to female MPs and their children is it in fact just a chance for men who feel emasculated by strong women to express the hate they feel and is Brexit perhaps just the excuse?

Lemon I am not talking about partisan articles, I am talking about the actual text of Acts of Parliament and EU Directives. These are all available on public media, and are not "fake news" Likewise, documents advising the Cabinet on the likely effects of a no-deal Brexit, like Yellowhammer, are not "partisan articles" but are the background to decisions made by the Government, and are not "fake news by the hysterical".

Indeed, if any faking has gone on, it is more likely that the labelling "Base case scenario" has been edited before publication to "Worst case scenario".

more foul, and violence inciting language from Farage- it is all orchestrated- and becoming worse than Trump...Hyperbole, NO.

just words, some will say- but words do matter.

www.southwalesargus.co.uk/.../17918581.nigel.../...

It did mean leave, Lemon - I think the predictive text was up to its tricks again. At least it was the same verb even if the wrong part of speech, wuite near, I suppose. A few days ago I typed "biggish" which appeared as "Higgins", lord knows where it got that from.

Terribull Trisher That looks like someone jumping on the bandwagon to make a few quid. I daresay they also have one on sale called ""My little notebook of all the Remainers I would like to strangle" so as to butter their bread on both sides.

yes, there are some hilarious predictive texts at times on here, I suppose we should all use preview really but life is too short.

I must go and do some gardening while the weather is decent.

From Martin Lewis (Money Saving Expert): “Depressing reading my social media feeds today. Both sides of Brexit debate name calling. Let's accept

- You can be a leaver without being a racist or thick.
- You can be a remainer without being a traitor or wanting to surrender our country.

It isn't binary. There are pros & cons to both!”

I would just say that abby is not a new poster.

Amazon are now selling the imaginatively named "My little notebook of all the Brexiteers I would like to stab"

I saw that on twitter yesterday and it provoked a great many horrified reactions from Remainers, several of whom said they had contacted Amazon to request that it be withdrawn from sale.

I have just searched Amazon and twitter and it appears to have been removed.

Do people not feel it is correct to be angry at this? Rachel, Johnson's sister, hinted at this the other day. And it seems that she was right, and I am very pleased to see this is being properly investigated.

'The public interest in hedge fund companies is highlighted by the fact that Boris was the sole Tory candidate for the leadership who fixed a firm date for Britain to leave the EU “do or die” on October 31. His main rival, Jeremy Hunt, made it clear that if a deal was near he would be prepared to extend the leaving date by a few days. From evidence lodged at the Electoral Commission, Byline Times has discovered Johnson received £375,000 from hedge fund associated donors compared to £45,000 for Hunt.

“It could be Cummings advising the PM to be extremely aggressive… It could be people who have invested billions in shorting the pound in expectation of a no-deal Brexit.”
Rachel Johnson, BBC World at One

A precise date for a market-moving event such as a ‘no deal’ Brexit could be significant for hedge funds as they speculate on the fluctuation of foreign exchanges and share prices. A ‘no deal’ exit from the EU could lead to a big drop in the pound and a fall in stock values which could be highly profitable to those taking short positions.'

I would just say that abby is not a new poster.

I've used Gnet's dreadful 'search' facility and can't find any posts from abbey before yesterday.

There is another poster called abby, though. Also found through Gnet 'search'

As we know Maizie- some GN members, totally against GN rules, have changed names again and again- so perhaps.

(yes, I have changed once, from Granjura to Juragran - so no, it did not confuse anyone. As the rules say, it is about trust).

A quick search ( not through GN ) brought up posts from January 2019.

Could it be that one of the reasons we are seeing more anger from leavers is that they are being encouraged by the intemperate rhetoric of politicians and the media, not just to shout and post aggressively but to actually take to the streets?

According to the Daily Mail-"Tories say Boris Johnson could declare a state of emergency over claims there could be riots to force through Brexit"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7514031/Tories-say-Boris-Johnson-declare-state-emergency-force-no-deal-Brexit.html

Just yesterday brexit supporter Brendan O'Neill has said there 'should be' riots from Leave voters for the failure to deliver Brexit - live on television.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brendan-o-neill-on-politics-live-1-6294304

MaizieD
I've just done a GN search and you were commenting on the thread I refer to above.

indeed varian - and it is cranked up by the PM, and by others, like Farage- saying 'we will take a knife to them' ...

Which thread was that, petra? Could you do a link or give me its title?