Am I the only one

Our generation has lived through 2 world wars and survived we will survive with or without being affiliated to our European neighbours.

Blimey, nipsmum. Just how old are you? I didn't even live through WW2...

Personally, I'd like a little more than just 'survival' for my children and grandchildren.

aprilrose
Were I in your shoes dinner would not be the only meal.

"I will never forgive Cameron for opening this Pandora’s box, apart from the odd moan about straight bananas I never heard much about our ‘apparent’ hatred of EU before he did that."

I'm with BlueBelle on this 100%.

What makes me laugh (or cry) is the idea of a "no Brexit deal" - as if that is even possible. The EU will not let us off what we owe them and have all the cards, so there is zero possibility of simply walking away. Utter nonsense from a load of Eton fools.

Briton's view of the importance of the EU 2006 - 2016

No you are not alone! Just get us OUT as quickly as possible so we can start to re-build our wonderful country!

Why do they have all the cards? It seems they desperately need our money - we are one of the biggest contributors - and if we do leave without a deal, what are they going to do? Throw us out?

Mervyn King, former Governor of the Bank of England, was on TV recently and basically said 'Walk away'.

I voted / Remain and would still do so. How could ANYONE leave or remain, make such an important life changing decision based on two words on a sheet of paper LEAVE or REMAIN with absolutely No plan, No explanation and really no idea !!!!! Cameron is entirely to blame and this shambolic 'government' has made the entire process worse by treating it as a bun fight in the dorm ….get back to serious discussion and cut out Johnson's dictatorship before his Nanny sits him on the naughty step. this is peoples LIVES he is playing with. I went to see Farmageddon yesterday ….why did it remind me of No. 10 ...just a pity we can't send the lot of them to the moon ...but they would probably destroy that as well …..'Oooh I say look ,,,we can see Earth from here ….we destroyed it ...oh goody what shall we do next for fun;...….……..grrrrrrr

Signed the petition

Rosina Mon 21-Oct-19 11:51:41 They hold all the cards because they have far greater buying power than we do. We have seen that the offer of a deal is on their terms simply because they are in the strongest position. We need their trade more than they need ours, it really is very simple, 27 countries have more buying power than one.

I appreciate that this might be a matter of opinion but one indisputable fact is that the £ has lost 20% since the vote because the markets know Brexit is bad for the UK.

aprilrose That is awful. When you talk about the abuse Leave voters get, you usually just get more.
The people I know personally who have voted differently have all been civil and frankly we don't really discuss it any more because everyone has already made their decision and there is nothing that people can do while the politicians try to do it without doing it.
Did your husband speak to you like that on other issues (not that it is ok if he didn't). It sounds like this may have brought some problems to a head.
I am fed up with Brexit, particularly when it gets brought up on totally unrelated comments or when people believe that it is the only issue when we do eventually come to an election despite everything else that has been happening to this country.
I have to admit that I am now totally confused by all the machinations in Parliament.

aprilrose I should have read the whole thread before commenting.
Ignore my third paragraph.

ALANaV; should I go to see Farmaggedon to cheer myself up or do you think it might make me even more confused/scared/angry than I am now?

Not about Brexit in US but can you imagine the annoyance we have had for four years? I have no problem with our president because the policies have Helped us. I respect the office and know it is a lot more than just pleasing people. Our press stretches "the truth" so I either watch Netflix or nothing. Our family has been splintered somewhat and I hate it!

I hope this makes everyone laugh as much as it did me.

The year is 2192 The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline.
No one remembers where this tradition originated from, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world.

What irritates me the most is that other important issues such as crime, the nhs and social care have all had to take second place to Brexit. For heaven' sake, just get the deal done!

Let’s go on the 31st whatever happens.
Even Remainers are saying that.
I blame Cameron for starting it and for the other Parties for being so awkward..
What I can’t understand is that apparently it is the people in the Labour held seats who voted forBrexit so why does the Labour Party want another vote?

How many more times.?
The people have voted.
The majority want to leave

Good post tinydancer.
What is the point in getting a rushed deal asap if the deal hasn't even been properly scrutinised and if nothing is published about the economic implications?
Surely we have all learned lessons about voting in ignorance of the facts.
I have to point out that in response to my questions, aprilrose (OP) very frankly spelled out her own reasons for voting to leave. I don't agree with her vote but appreciate the fact that her reasons are very personal and immediate and that she took the trouble to explain that without fobbing me off or coming out with the usual meaningless standard brexit replies.

Lancslass - "whatever happens"!
Totally unacceptable and irresponsible comment! Inflict chaos on your own family if you so choose but not on mine!
Sums up the attitude of a whole lot of brexit voters unfortunately.

Lancslass1 Mon 21-Oct-19 13:42:54 I don't think that is true. I don't know any remainer who has said that, I think it is only politicians saying we have. However, I have seen many videos of leavers who have changed their minds and now want to remain.

I agree I don't think we will get back to normal for a very, very long time. Even if we leave soon there will be years of negotiating trade deals. The withdrawal Bill was meant to be the relatively simple part of the process.

I dont know any remainers who say we should should just leave on 31 October even without a deal. And as said previously our leaving will not be the end of it. The let's get Brexit done slogan is nonsense and Johnson and Co know that it is

Mcrc I too live in the US, and wholeheartedly agree with your post.

Whatever side of the fence we're on, I think most of us would quite like the issue to be resolved (obviously to each of our individual satisfaction!).

Aprilrose Goodness you are cross, aren't you? I wonder if you were always so furious about being in the EU. Have you spent every year since 1976 absolutely hating life here? It must have been awfully wearing for you.
I have yet to hear a single Brexit voter able to communicate just what they think will improve in their life if we leave the EU.
As for not getting your husband's dinner - Can't he cook for himself?

Aprilrose Goodness you are cross, aren't you? I wonder if you were always so furious about being in the EU

???? I am question marking you because I think you have truly got hold of the wrong end of the stick. Thats my fault. I wrote that post immediately after I had "words" with my husband.
Yes, I was cross with him. I was cross because of the way he spoke to me.

As to the rest of your post, it does not deserve any response.