Waspi women

Ok.....don’t believe my facts if you like, but if you don’t care for Sky News facts either, try Rowena Mason ( deputy political editor of The Guardian) in her column today online....
She says ‘ for every £1 pledged by the Conservatives ...Labour have pledged to spend £28’.
Go and read it, then come back with your reply.

Corbyn supporters seem to live in a bubble.

IF ( note that I don't say WHEN) a Labour government does pay fair compensation, will all the cynical naysayers hand it back so that it can go in the mythical piggy bank?

Ps I am not a Labour supporter. I am not a Waspi woman. However I would like to see fairness for those who suffered due to this bungled attempt at equalization (a principle I think is fair.)

Talk is cheap. Deeds not words.

How is any party going to achieve any 'deeds' unless they are voted into a position to do so?

Cynicism is all very well but it can be overdone...

Obviously irony alert not functioning!

Umpteen decades of voting for all sorts of political parties has led to the cynicism felt by many. Unfulfilled promises will do that. It's dangerous. It leads to voter apathy.

There's something not quite right about that article lemongrove. On the one hand it claims the Conservatives are only going to spend an extra £1.5bn. Then it says they've pledged to spend an extra £3.2bn on infrastructure projects and goodness knows how much on 20,000 extra police officers, 50,000 nurses, £2bn on potholes, expansion of free childcare, 40 (!) new hospitals …

Even without getting my calculator out, I can work out that adds up to more than £1.5bn … unless, of course, it's a load of lies.

In any case, the Labour public spending plans will still mean we're behind the Scandinavian countries and France as a percentage of GDP (as shown in the Times graph I posted).

The Conservative manifesto was a disgrace. There was no evidence of strategic thinking. It was like the notes of a drunkard scribbled on to a beermat (maybe it was!)

More fool the person who votes for this shower. It's just a shame they'll bring the whole country down with them.

Sadly FF, you don't seem to understand the value of referencing a reliable source. It's how people learn. If you already know all there is to know you won't need the words of those who know more than any of us do. I appreciate other people referencing knowledgeable sources that are held in esteem by their peers. You don't but I'm really not sure what we can do about that unless you are suggesting we destroy knowledge and the means of obtaining it just to make others feel their opinions, although based on no facts whatsoever, are always right. That's not going to happen is it?

I don't believe it is anyone else's failure if I don't learn from those who offer me the opportunity; it's mine and I don't believe it my failure if you choose not to be open minded.

This is not even in the manifesto just seems they’ll say anything to get more votes Even though I was badly affected I wouldn’t vote for Corbyn to bankrupt the country

Oh dear.

I agree with @tooting29 this was not in their manifesto. I am sceptical and think they released this on the back of the waspi woman in the audience at the leaders debate.

Corbyn is not going to bankrupt the country.

A country with its own sovereign currency cannot be bankrupted because it issues its currency.

It only has a problem if there is too much money in the 'system' and not enough goods and services available to spend it on.

One thing that can't be said about the UK is that it doesn't have enough goods and services available for purchase.

I'm a WASPI, born December 1953 and had to work a further 5yrs 3mths ( to 65yrs 3mths )before I got my pension.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Ill health has completely clobbered my retirement unfortunately, not helped by being forced to work when ill.

Well give the Tories credit for something. By constantly carping that Labour virtually 'bankrupted' the country and left the Tories with their careful fiscal policy to 'sort it out' (ie imposing the era of unnecessary austerity) they have fooled many naive voters who have no idea of how the economy operates.
Add more and more lies and they have the gullible well and truly hooked.
Repeat a lie often enough and you'll fool the people into believing it.
The well-documented propaganda philosophy of Goebbels. Worked in prewar Germany when it conned reasonable people! That's why Bojo and co are using the same tactic and the sad thing is that so many haven't learned from history.

I'm a WASPI woman born December 1954.
Thanks but no thanks Jeremy and believe me I could really do with that amount of money.

loupyloo I was born September 1953 (3 months before you) and received my SP at age 64 1/2! Where was the fairness in that?

I also had my SP age increased twice, the 2nd time by the Coalition Govt in 2010. It increased by a whole year only 6 years before. With no notification.

NannyJan I don't understand why you didn't receive your SP until you were 64 1/2. I think somebody made a mistake. I'd check it if I were you.

Labour always has to spend more when coming to power in order to right the hideous wrongs and inequalities imposed by the previous Tory government. Labour are right to do so and ensures that our country knows right from wrong. It is not right to oppress others as the Tories do.

Unfortunately I remember the 70's with power strikes at 4pm, going home from school in the dark. No electric to cook dinner etc. This is what they are promising, all rumours to get your vote. My daughter loves the idea of free nursery from 9 months. Her child will be in school before that ! I will have my State Pension in 3 years and 1 month ? Still not voting Labour though

National debt % of GDP
Lab Govt:
1997-37.6
1998-35.6
1999-34.3
2000-29.6
2001-28.5
2002-29.5
2003-30.4
2004-33.3
2005-34.5
2006-35.0
2007-35.7
Financial crisis
2008-47.3
2009-60.2
Tory Govt:
2010-70.3
2011-74.8
2012-78.2
2013-80.4
2014-83.3
2015-83.4
2016-84.5
2017-84.8
2018-83.3

I say no more.

Have read this with interest as I’m born in 1954 and have only just started receiving my pension. My question is this, as a long time carer for my disabled husband and in receipt of Carer’s allowance until it was withdrawn when I became a pensioner, what will the situation be regarding the allowance that was paid to me between the age of 60 to pension age? Without doubt it will be required to be repaid, so give with one hand, take it back with the other. And will the same apply to others who have been unable to continue to work until the higher pension age and have had to rely on benefits? As previously posted, it’s unlikely to happen anyway. Just a blatant attempt to try to get a section of the voters who have been vocal in their discontent at the current situation to vote for Labour in the belief they will receive a payout.

Sorry source
Office of Budget Responsibility / Treasury figures.

Nobody seems to ask how Boris will pay for all his promises. I believe in JC and believe that he will carry it through.

I’ve just added this to the spreadsheet of promises from each party and, if Labour get in I look forward to my cash ASAP.

It is really interesting that so many people seem to think the LP cannot find the money for compensation. However, it's going through court at the moment, having just gone to appeal. Surely, if the ERG Tories are as fiscally prudent as they try to con us into thinking, they will have put aside a contingency fund? Otherwise how are they going to pay for it if the judgement goes against them?