INDEPENDENCE DAY!

We will never be able to combat racism and xenophobia unless people recognise it when it happens.

No jura2 it’s two things....1) nobody can be bothered to answer your demands for ‘facts’ and 2) all trade negotiations
Including the pharma industry will be taking place in the next 6 months.
You cannot know that Johnson is aiming for a no deal, I can’t think that would be the plan at all.You have stated these gloomy scenarios about cancer treating isotopes and medicines many times before, it’s just speculation and scare mongering.

All idiotic comments about racism and xenophobia relating to ExperNotOld’s post on the previous page......go back and read it!!
She assumes that jura is British but has chosen to live in another country, how in hell is that racist or xenophobic?
Sometimes posters on GN are the giddy limit.

Forget about xenophobia, I did not make the accusation and I am not bothered. But it is cumulative and similar comments have been made again and again, by different posters, for years.

It is not because UG can't be bothered to post facts and advice from experts in the field- it is because they do not exist. Simple, and you know that. Yes, we may, get a deal that will prevent problems with medicines and isotopes- but as Johnson is clearly choosing to say 'no alignment of any sort' - it does not bode well. Crystal ball? No I havent' got one, and never have you - but I DO rely on experts in the field, and they are VERY concerned indeed.

If someone makes statements they cannot back - they should think twice before posting them.

Out of respect for a friend suffering at the moment - I shall withdraw from this dreadful discussion. I have actually asked to be banned from GN, but this has been refused.

You've asked to be banned, jura?

All you have to do is unsubscribe.

I'm not surprised HQ have refused to play the martyr game.

I wonder if the loss of ´freedom of movement’ in the EU has been understood by the Brexiteers? If they want to travel through Europe, they will need different driving permits for each country. Now I appreciate that a lot of them will not want to venture further than Dover, but I haven’t read any posts which address this point.

Why do you appreciate "a lot of them will now want to venture further than Dover" Reddevil. If we have to obtain a different driving permit for each European country we want to visit, then that's what we'll do.

I have actually asked to be banned from GN, but this has been refused.

Ban yourself!

It's very easy

I think jura2 meant that she has asked for this thread to be banned, not herself!

Callistemon so... everyone has a back story but we don’t have to demand the future is arranged to suit us individually. IMHO unless you’re living the experience you have no right to an opinion.

ENO I neither expressed an opinion not criticised, I merely posted some factual information.

Unfortunately ending up as piggy-in-the-middle.

However, I might have to disagree that you have to live an experience in order to have an opinion.

Neither is suggesting that GNers are drug takers.

I'm not surprised it was you Lemongrove. However, nowhere did I suggest GNeters are drug takers. I did suggest the person who reported it was a numpty though. That now seems too kind.

Does anyone else get the feeling that ENO reminds them of another poster who seems to have been gone for a while?

Yes

I am genuinely a newish member. I only joined in an attempt to understand what retirement could offer. The site has in no way helped with that dilemma, but it has made me wonder about too many things to mention connected with older age. I just abhor people that will only see their own side of things. I work as an information analyst which by necessity requires an understandIng of all aspects of a subject before making any recommendation.
I’m not altogether sure I’d like what was being inferred by being linked to this ‘gone for a while’ individual.

GGM3 I did not even see yet alone report your comment that was deleted by GNHQ, but they would not delete without a good reason, and you kept banging on about your use of the word cocaine, so it was a reasonable assumption.
I would suggest whoever reported it isn’t the numpty, but rather the poster who made the deletable comment in the first place.

Well GGMK3?

ExperiencedNotOld.......you get used to the gratuitous insults doled out by some posters on here after a while.

They deleted it because someone made the same suggestion you did which was simply not true. Interesting that you repeat it in that we not, you say, having seen it lemongrow.

So what....it’s deleted, just accept it.It’s childish to put a wrong username btw.

And it's sheer ignorance a) to correct someone and b) not to realise that predictive text on many types of machines will change made-up words.

curlywhirly, no, I asked to be banned from the whole site. It is not healthy, not pleasant, and achieves nothing, aparts from widening the divide even further. It is upsetting and painful- but more to the point, achieves absolutely nothing. After 40 years in UK, followed by 10 years dipping in and out, with all our family there and a property- I have huge affection for the country- the landscapes, the castles and gardens, but also the cities- but even more importantly, for the tolerance the openess, the SOH, the open and tolerant mix of cultures - and seeing what I so loved attacked, those values Trisher talked about- is truly painful and beyond sad. And for it to be all confirmed on a 'grannies' forum, even more so

No flouncing, just painful acceptation that this won't change and that I should respect my health and do much better things with my time. As for 'unsubscribing' - I have no idea how to do this on my tablet. The reason I'd like to be banned, is so I am not tempted to look, nor tempted to respond. Only came back tp pick up some lovey PMs. Leave you to it - but I will make a prediction, and we will see if it will happen. Boris and his ERG+ Cabinet- are just playing a game. They are pretending to cut a deal, but (heard that one before) setting such hard red lines, which the EU cannot possibly accept, like no checks between UK and NI. That will be very messy- and at the very end, days before the end of the transition period he will make an announcement 'we have tried so hard, ben over backwards, but the EU have refused to play our game and are being intransigeant, so we will go out with NO Deal' - and the next day, we will be virtual vassals of Trump and China, Russia and others too- with all the serious consequences on our industries and agriculture- and rubbish pouring in.

We urgently need a strong leader of the opposition with experience, and gravitas, like Keir Starmer- to confront this head on, insist on the Russian interference report to be published, and insist that a) promises made must be delivered and b) nothing is put in the way of a good deal with EU (which will always be much worse than what we had- but that boat has sailed)...

None of this will be achieved on GN, that is abundantly clear- so as far as I am concerned, no point anymore. Martyr did you say Merlot? How, where? Not asking for any sympathy, at all- just saying that there is no point. That is fair enough, no.

I don't think GN will ban you unless you have been exceedingly naughty, jura but I'm not sure quite what the rules are these days.

You could delete your account but then you could still read but not contribute, rather like scratching a wound!

I hope you're not right and that they come to a sensible agreement.
We haven't got Keir Starmer because Corbyn refused to do the decent thing and resign and even then it would have been questionable.

Sorry to hear you feel that way Jura2. I think it's fair to say the posters on the political threads enjoy a good verbal bun fight! You could always hide the political threads, but maybe you don't want to talk about cookery, gardening and the weather ? although there are plenty of other subjects.
I'm sure you can delete your account altogether if you ask Gransnet how to do this. Hope you find the best solution.