INDEPENDENCE DAY!

GGMK3 I'll bet they'll be first to complain when their grocery bills jump by 50% or when we take inferior meat products from the USA because nobody else wants to trade with us.I did hear Australia refused but haven't checked the facts.
It IS bullying when no one else can ever have a majority so the rest of us just have to "suck it up" ,it certainly isn't democracy .Not in my book it isn't .Democracy should mean that everyones voice is heard .With 80% ENGLISH MP;s the rest of us haven't a hope in hell .Sadly BOJO goes into clown mode and mumbles when asked sensible questions about other parts of the UK.The very fact he dismissed the Scottish answer to our need for immigrants by a Scottish visa and the way he did it was insulting and ill thought out.

What evidence do you have that our food bills will rise by 50% paddyanne ??

I see the idiotic scaremongering hasn’t gone away.

Here you are paddyanne.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/first-blow-for-post-brexit-britain-as-australia-rejects-trade-deal/07/01/

Believing in a good future?
Damn, where has my mind gone, girl!

I'll be raising my glass, just the same

Australia doesn't want to trade with us? (Insert preferred expletive.) They were the founding nation of the Commonwealth. Oh, what a mess.

I guess, LadyGracie, that you don’t travel in Europe or have children or grandchildren who wish to study or work in Europe or be cared for by EU nationals who work in our nursing homes and hospitals and you don’t need to benefit from the various grants that fund scientific research and the arts and you don’t have family who farm or work in industry and are facing uncertainty.
I agree that the EU needed reform, we could have worked on that and made it a shining example of what countries working together can achieve but because of a very small majority of voters, we have lost it all.

Reasonable trading does not need blackmail...

Sadly, David Cameron thought the same, got short shrift when he went cap in hand to the EU for reform - remember?

No, its better this way, I think. We have so much to feel good about.


Happy Independence day-eve!

We already trade with Australia but the farmers have found other markets for their meat and other produce.

They were the founding nation of the Commonwealth.
One of them.
Australia is a different country today.

Yes, I can't imagine anyone needing new customers anywhere else in the world

I see the idiotic scaremongering hasn’t gone away.

What evidence do you have that it's idiotic scaremongering JenniferEccles? The OP is evidence that the neandertal "we won" hasn't gone away and I also see the uneducated catchphrases haven't either.

For as long as someone sets these threads up the answers will stay the same. It's really up to you and those who share your views.

Bossyrossy you missed one. LadyGracie obviously doesn't mind either if many/most of the young people who have paid more into our exchequer than they have taken out leave.

Their taxes have allowed our pensions to stay comparatively high by comparison to other benefits but obviously, some do not mind if that comes to an end.

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My life will change in many very significant ways when we leave the EU. Far too many and personal to divulge here, but believe me a few sparklers are not going to make me feel good about any of it.

We already trade with Australia but the farmers have found other markets for their meat and other produce.

They have Callistemon and interesting they have gone to nearer neighbours for those markets generally.

Well it's never easy, is it.
I'm entirely relieved to see Brexit go through, as I was extremely worried that the winning voters would riot if their vote was ignored. And that IS scarey to me!

I've lived through a lot worse than this. No financial disaster as has oft been predicted. Yawn. A whole load of nothing so far.

Why do people get so nasty? On a forum like this what difference will it make to anything, anything at all? To spend your remainer life snarling and spitting whenever leaving Europe is mentioned? The only thing that does result is you living in a perpetual state of ill grace, hardly good for a good and balanced life.
My list of people never to get stuck in a virtual lift with is growing....

What a nasty rude post from Pippa.

In answer to when will we stop paying the EU, very probably never and we also lose out by not having a say. Unless we get a good deal with the EU prices will rise JenniferE, I will wait for you to start complaining when it does.

Happy days ahead, ha ha

I read the link about Australia and what it actually said was that they weren’t keen on free movement of people between our countries because they feared that highly skilled Australians would want to come here to live and work.

What does that tell us about how they see the future of our country post Brexit?

You missed a bit, JE. ^ and an influx of unskilled British workers to Sydney and Melbourne.^

They don't want our Brexit jobless... ?

ananimous, David Cameron wanted reforms that would only benefit the U.K., that is why they were rejected by the EU. I am talking about reforms that would have benefited the whole of the EU and, in turn, the whole world e.g. fair trading, no corruption, peaceful coexistence, concern for the climate. We could have made this world a better place for all instead of just thinking about what is best for the U.K.

And if you have read any of my previous posts on this subject, you will know that in my opinion, leaving the EU is not the best thing for the UK.

Pippa, with respect, that comment to Grandad1943 was not very nice. And ExperiencedNotOld, I am a remainer, and have never snarled or spit, not my style at all.