INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Michael Morpurgo had someone spit in his face for wearing an anti Brexit badge....

Before someone picks me up on it, it might not have been his face but he was spat at. It was in The Guardian....

I won’t celebrate - I’m going to close my business soon (sometime this year), it’s too difficult to run after Brexit.

Am just hoping that the meds supply isn’t too affected - depends a lot of whether we get a trade deal. My son has epilepsy and official govt advice is to brand swap. Dangerous advice form most epilepsy meds

I understood that Australia is keen on an enhanced trade deal with us, their 8th largest trading partner, but do not want visa free movement to be part of that deal.

an influx of unskilled workers to Sydney or Melbourne
there is a continual need for farm workers or for those to fulfil the other jobs that Australians do not want to do.
However, the visas are short-term and a condition of obtaining another year is to do a specified time doing farm work.

Oh dear, so many horrible insults for me after posting this! I do think that here, we should at least be polite to one another!

I voted to leave the EU and No! I am not 'nose-rubbing' or 'gloating', simply celebrating my chosen outcome. (As would all of you 'Remainers' be - given half a chance!)

growstuff and vegansrock I'm moderately well-educated and do know what 'feudalistic' means, actually. Do you?

And no, I did not consult my family before voting to leave the EU. (And they did not consult me before making up their minds.) I voted for what I thought was best for our country and for all of our people.

There is no need to denigrate people just because they do not agree with you. (That's a form of bullying, isn't it?)

And Yes!, I shall be drinking French champagne tomorrow night. (Because it's the best!) And I'll spare a little toast for all of the disappointed and concerned 'Remainers'. (It'll all come right - you'll see!)

What a great day for Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch and Crispin Odey to celebrate the damage they have done and the opportunity to profit at our expense.

In what way will it ‘all come alright’?

Erasmus has gone - impacting on many young people. Freedom of movement has gone. Science funding has gone. My business will close this year (affecting hardly anyone but me & my clients - and it will impact on them as no-one else anywhere else in the world does what I do), jobs are going - a Japanese friend has already had to move to Germany to keep her job because the project she is working on is a big joint EU project and the UK is now out of that - already - how many more will there be?

So yeah I shall be relieved if my son’s meds supply is not affected but that won’t mean everything is ‘alright’. The sky may not fall in but for many their future opportunities have already been taken away.

I guess today confirms it’s time for the kids to embrace their heritage & order their Irish passports.

For those who will say Johnson is saying Erasmus will stay etc the uncertainty is already killing the scheme - unless people are loaded it is difficult to commit to a year abroad - this article explains the impact already www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jan/28/too-much-risk-why-erasmus-students-are-shunning-brexit-britain

The impact of Brexit on the university sector is already huge. Sadly. Universities these days work best via collaboration. Splendid isolation tends to get them very far.

Lyndiloo You have no idea how I would have reacted if more people had voted to remain than leave. Please don't judge me by the crassness of some Leave voters.

Yes, I do know what "feudalistic", but your use of the word in the context of the EU suggests that you most certainly don't.

Obviously it’s nose-rubbing - what else can it be? Everything is the same until Dec 31st and after that you’ve no evidence that it “will all come right”. - how will you measure that? The cost of your champagne? Please Also explain how the EU is “feudalistic”.

I Think it’s dragged on for so long it won’t be as big a celebration as it would have been had we left a couple of years ago ( when we were supposed to )
Most people just seem tired of it all.
Plus nothing will change for another year. And for all the arguments, no one will know if brexit has been a success for at least another 10 years.

From the point of view of carbon footprints, how can bringing goods thousands of miles from the USA and Australia be better for the earth than trading with our neighbours in Europe?

Independence from what anyway? Hooray we can get rid of the Human Rights Act - who wants Human Rights anyway?

We can import food more likely to poison us (& looks like we’ll have to to get a US deal). Yahoo.

I doubt they’ll be much independent about doing whatever the US wants us to.

I don't think anyone ever predicted an 'immediate' financial disaster, ananimous. Those who wanted to leave now intend, as a weaker post-Brexit Britain, to look to America, it seems. Good luck with that.

Why do people get so nasty. Possibly in reply to "nasty", prodding and pointless OPs.

I read the link about Australia Unfortunately, what you don't seem to understand Jennifer, is that Australia WANTS immigration. That is how there system works.

and the world will smile with you.
its the beginning of the end of the EU in Britian.
Party tonight .

Let the miserable be alone.

Well there are plenty of us not celebrating, so I don’t think we’ll be alone.

NO optimism on this thread.? Only doom and gloom. ! Let’s celebrate our independence ??

@Nezummi65 . But you will all be alone in that misery. No one likes a misery , so

Shall I pop the champers as I close my business Aprilrose? I shall celebrate by choosing the month to shut up shop tonight.

I’m not miserable - rather resigned to it tbh and economic suicide aside am horrified by the jingoistic patriotism it seems to have unleashed.

Nezumi65. I come from a family of business people. I personally do not run one as I really do not have the lobes for business. I dont like the stress. I would rather be an employee.... but that is as maybe.

My question to myself, which I will voice, in the light of experience is, - is your business really being closed because of brexit or is that an excuse for other factors?

Business has been tough over the last 20 years. For many it is now picking up ( as my business family and even my employers are saying). I am not trying to be rude but often there are other factors in business failure. Too many in the market, not able to invest, not having the right product/placing etc. failure to adapt..... even just tiredness sometimes.

I wish you luck in the future. I am not without empathy for your situation. Over the last 45 years I have lost several jobs which have been the direct result of EU policies .... so it cuts both ways. Always there are winners and losers.

You're just being insulting now, aprilrose.

Maizie Best ignored. Leave them alone in their euphoric fool's paradise.