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INDEPENDENCE DAY!

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Lyndiloo Thu 30-Jan-20 04:35:37

Hurrah! We're getting OUT at last!

But it seems strange to me that there is so little talk/news on the media about this. Before the General Election everything was about Brexit. To the point that even I got sick to death of it! But it's all gone quiet since then. Are there to be no celebrations from all those who voted to leave? (Sad that Big Ben won't even mark this historic event.)

(I was talking to a young woman the other day, and she didn't even know that we were leaving the EU on Friday!)

I can't really celebate in style, as most of my family wanted to remain -otherwise I would have had a party! So it will be a bit of a damp squib for me!

I shall still open a bottle of champers and toast this great country of ours - our democracy, our integrity - and now, at last, our freedom from a corrupt and self-serving feudalistic state.

Ilovecheese Fri 31-Jan-20 11:23:08

ananimous your post at 11.19 today has got to be the most unpleasant I have ever seen on Gransnet.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:26:17

WTF ananimous? Talk about displaying your ignorance.

University researchers apply for grants - these can be hundreds of thousands of pounds & are often international. Using that money they may procure outside businesses to provide services towards that research work.

Without that research funding researchers lose jobs (a lot of posts are funded specifically around particular projects) and universities lose funding.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:27:19

aprilrose Fri 31-Jan-20 08:46:07 It is an oxymoron to the rational thinking to think that leaving the world's largest trading block gives us something to smile about.

What cheer is there in leaving the group that ranks first in both inbound and outbound international investments?

Why throw a party because we are no longer part of the top trading partner for 80 countries. While by comparison, we are supposed to consider the United States of America - top trading partner for a little over 20 countries - is seen to be great if they dictate a trade "agreement" with us?

Why light fireworks because we are leaving the largest economy in the world?

Tell me, rather than being puerile, why that should bring us good cheer?

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:28:24

The best benefit is: we have INDEPENDANCE now, hurrah!

In the coming years we will vote again and again until we drain our own swamp of the quisling element destroying our very fabric of the UK.

Come on you moaning minerva's cheer up for goodness sake!

The battle is won!

The EU will fall... like a domino effect.
smile

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:28:32

My Japanese friend is employed as a researcher on EU funding. She has been living in the UK for 20 years and has paid taxes/bought a flat etc. She was told to stay on her role & on her funding she had to move to Germany. So she now pays taxes to Germany. Her husband has also moved to Germany and also pay taxes into the German system.

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:31:01

Funding? Then it is not a real business, sorry.

growstuff Fri 31-Jan-20 11:32:12

Have you opened your Prosecco already ananimous?

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:32:38

Grandma70s Fri 31-Jan-20 10:42:04
It’s a sad day for the country, but cheer yourselves up with the thought that it’s also, apparently, National Hot Chocolate Day.

Something exceedingly pleasant. Unlike the comments on this thread from those who think this is the best thing for the UK.

growstuff Fri 31-Jan-20 11:32:44

Is this Bitchit Day?

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:34:32

Sorry for your friend, but as she is Japanese, can she not get a grant from Japan?

This EU funding is our money, being given back to us, you do understand that?

Living in japan for 20 years gives me no rights either...

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:37:19

Please let's keep things on topic folks, no need for spite, eh?
I'm that happy I dooooo feel a little merry, wink I must say, hip hip hooray!

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:42:45

You really do seem to be a summary of the statistics on leave voters ananimous

The best benefit is: we have INDEPENDANCE now, hurrah!

So do tell how will this change our politics, constitution, territorial settlement, economy, and foreign relations? You obviously are ahead of the game and know all this. Please share.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:44:57

Okay. Stupidity and lack of knowledge are now showing because people think it is "clever". Add to that all the personal insults and who would want to be associated with a "leavers" party for heaven's sake.

I hope this drops of this list shortly.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:48:35

ananimous - I assume you are stirring rather than actually as stupid as your posts would suggest so will bow out of trying to explain.

Last ditch attempt for people who are genuinely interested in the impact of Brexit on research funding. www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50044659

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 11:53:10

Ah Independence! We will now I assume be entirely self sufficient, grow our own food, train and staff our NHS, staff the hospitality industry, staff seasonal agricultural work, fund heritage projects, fund the arts, fund medical research, fund university research and study abroad. Because that's what the EU was doing for us. But now we are Independent!

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:56:14

Sour grapes abound apparently smile

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:57:10

We have peeps here that have NO idea how we carried on before the EU hahaha s'funny

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 11:59:54

You seriously want to go back to the 1970s ananimous well that explains a lot!

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:00:08

trisher Come on then Chestnut post a few of these benefits. Long term, short term, any term, any benefit. Just saying there will be lots doesn't mean a thing.
Oh for goodness sake, haven't you learnt anything in the past four years, with all the discussion, debate, TV programmes, newspaper articles etc. on Brexit. You have obviously been closing your ears and eyes because you made up your mind long ago and won't hear anything to the contrary. In brief:

1. We regain our democratic right to be a self governing independent nation without the burden of EU imposed laws.
2. We will keep the billions of taxpayers' money we currently pay to the EU (of which we only get a proportion back).
3. As a free self governing nation once again we can return to global trade as the majority of the free world does.
4. Without many EU directives businesses will be freed from time wasting bureaucracy and will prosper, which will create more jobs and opportunities.

Having answered your question I am not going to discuss this further, I'm off to celebrate ?‍♀️ ? ?‍♀️

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:00:18

I don't see anything sour in thinking some of the comments on here are produced by those with very little comprehension of how the world works and no capacity to learn. It is blatantly obvious.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:02:00

And I do mean how the world works now, not stuck in the 1970 as some seem to be.

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 12:07:11

Hahahah You are hilarious!
Goodness knows how we managed to liberate Europe!

Stop harking back to your convenient bit of propaganda, Lol! I think you are pulling my leg, now.

Cheers! We have popped the Bolly, tata

DARE TO DREAM!

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:08:07

GracesGranMK3 - you obviously feel you are losing the argument and consequently resorting to feeble insults like 'stuck in the 1970s' ? ? ?

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:09:44

Goodness knows how we managed to liberate Europe!

Not on our own. Do you know anything about anything?

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:11:06

I think ananymous has become over-excited and is throwing all sorts of wild comments around ?