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Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 11:57:52

Sajid Javid has just resigned as Chancellor!

POGS Thu 13-Feb-20 17:59:40

NannyJan53 Thu 13-Feb-20 15:29:09

vegansrock
Remember this lot moaning about the EU being run by “unelected bureaucrats”. Ironic.

My first thoughts exactly!
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I usually understand posts but I don't get your point. Where is the irony. Who are the ' Unelected bureaucrats' you are thinking of presumably running the government.?

POGS Thu 13-Feb-20 18:03:27

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 15:45:47

The Twittersphere is highly amusing on the Shuffle. The new Attorney General, Suella Braverman, is described as making RLB look like an intellectual.
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Rebecca Long Bailey?

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 18:03:39

I think they mean Dom Cummings POGS. Although I could be wrong.

I have been told so on occasion.....
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Oopsminty Thu 13-Feb-20 18:12:46

There is no irony

Nandalot Thu 13-Feb-20 18:46:23

The new Attorney General wants to take power away from the courts!
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/13/new-attorney-general-wanted-to-take-back-control-from-courts
This is chilling.

varian Thu 13-Feb-20 18:52:51

Surely the job of Attorney General is to uphold the law and defend the courts, not to be a PM's poodle who will do as she is told even if it means weakening the law of the land.

If political vetting of our Supreme Court judges is allowed we will be no better than the USA and it is a tragedy that the European Court of Justice will no longer be able to defend us.

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 19:11:12

Oh varian varian you missed the bit where the role of AG was redefined into that of giving the Government the legal advice that DC has written out for her ?

varian Thu 13-Feb-20 19:14:05

It seems that the role of Chancellor has also been redefined in the same terms suziewoozie

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 19:20:59

Yep

paddyanne Thu 13-Feb-20 19:41:13

isn't it good to seeBoris is including "ordinary " folk in his cabinet ? OOPs ...not so ordinary ,the son in law of an Indian billionaire.I guess he's likely to know all the problems the working family face ...NOT!

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 20:03:38

Well the ‘Vote Leave’ takeover of the government appears to be complete.

Some three-and-a-half years since the Brexit referendum, and within a year of Boris succeeding Theresa May as PM all four of the 'great offices of state' are now held by MPs who campaigned to leave the EU.

The changeover is hugely symbolic. Philip Hammond was described by senior pro-Leave MPs as "the beating heart of Remain", with the then Chancellor repeatedly accused of holding up no-deal preparations and revelling in downbeat economic forecasts of life outside the EU.

Time now to surge forward!

MawB Thu 13-Feb-20 20:12:44

This thread could be subtitled “ Cummings and Goingsgrin

POGS Thu 13-Feb-20 20:20:06

Very witty Maw. smile

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 20:21:01

Love it Maw!
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suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 20:21:45

Surge away - can’t wait ?

vegansrock Thu 13-Feb-20 20:24:03

Surge forward to?.....

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 20:27:03

Well No Deal to start with

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 20:31:34

I am already liking the sound of Mr Sunak. Just been reading up on hum. He is obviously very intelligent, having obtained a First from Oxford and an MBA from Stanford. He has had a career and worked in the real world.

He has been Javid's Deputy as Chief Secretary to the Treasury since last year. He lives in beautiful Yorkshire and he supported British Independence in the 2016 referendum.

All sounds good to me.

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 20:45:27

The real world of Goldman Sachs.? Getting good educational qualifications is no guarantee that you’ll be an effective Chancellor. Not of course that this actually matters in this case because all he’ll have to do is read out what DC has written down for him.

MaizieD Thu 13-Feb-20 21:01:28

Not 'British Independence', Ug. Brexit. Or, leaving the EU.

Do you think you could keep your vacuous slogans off this thread?

MaizieD Thu 13-Feb-20 21:05:22

Agreed, *suziewoozie: Anyone who thinks that working for Goldman Sachs is anything like working in the 'real world' is living in the land of makebelieve themselves, IMO.?

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 21:09:14

I bet you hated Javid and everything he stood for until lunchtime today. Sad.

MaizieD Thu 13-Feb-20 21:18:20

Talking to me,; Ug?

Bearing in mind Javid's strong Remain stance before the Referendum and his Damascene conversion to Brexit when it offered him a sniff of power I'd say that he stands for hypocritical and self seeking. Both traits which have nothing admirable about them.

I think 'contempt' is a better description than 'hate', though.

I wonder if he has the makings of a rebel... hmm

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 21:19:36

If this were a midterm government, losing a Chancellor could be a severe blow to Boris.

But the government is still enjoying a post-electoral honeymoon with its supporters (it has 47% support in the latest Ipsos-Mori poll, 49% with YouGov) (I say "with its supporters", because the majority of the electorate don't back it, and even in England the majority voted for other political parties - but we have FPTP).

In this context, it will barely affect anyone's views - even if Javid makes a damning resignation speech or something like that.

POGS Fri 14-Feb-20 00:41:25

Ah the ' Damascene conversion' question.

A sniff of power I also would agree stands for hypocritical and self seeking. Both traits which have nothing admirable about them.

It happens to those in very high places in all parties. Of course it could also be a case of political pragmatism but that depends on which camp you sit in and if you like/dislike the particular individual I guess.