Does anyone believe BJ has any intention of negotiating a Deal with EU?

The effect on British farming was very well expplained by farmers on BBC News just now. And there is no way the EU would agree to have knock on effects via open borders. They would be mad to- they won't. End of.

Minette Batters, president of the NFU, has described a no-deal brexit as "Armaggedon" yet that is where we might be heading.

Exactly, Armaggedon for UK farmers- of course it will hurt some sections of the French and other EU countries' markets- but they will support each other and form an even stronger, united market, able to get serious Trade Deals. But they will opt for short term damage- but never ever want to be part of the Armaggedon bit- unfair competition due to poor standards and workers rights, unsafe and dangerous foods rubbish- so NO open borders.

One of the biggest issues with open borders is the Ireland conundrum. Farmers along the border are going to be badly hit if there are border checks, which there will have to be if we don't have the same standards.

Johnson's lying and flippant attitude towards Ireland is really worrying.

Sterling close to its lowest ever - the world knows ...

British economy 'to grow 0.16% at best under US trade deal'

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/02/uk-says-it-will-not-lower-standards-to-strike-trade-deal-with-trump

Boris Johnson’s agreement estimated to cost 6.7% of expected GDP rise over 15 years

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/17/uk-lost-gdp-growth-brexit-deal-passed-official-estimates

Please GN leaver fanatics, can you explain the point of injuring our country's economy to this extent?

Liz Truss today stated that they are prepared to walk away from both Deals, with the EU and with the USA -unless they get exactly what they want

patcaf Fri 28-Feb-20 15:45:32

'EU never suggested a Canada or Norway deal. Only the UK suggested that.'
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jura2 Fri 28-Feb-20 16:06:07

'indeed patcaf. Gove made ridiculous statements saying that proximity makes no difference- but of course it does.'
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That is not true.

Donald Tusk was not only widely reported in the papers but we heard him on T. V stations clearly say :-

“From the very beginning, the EU offer has not just been a Canada deal, but a 'Canada plus plus plus' deal. Much further-reaching on trade, on internal security and on foreign policy cooperation. This is a true measure of respect. And this offer remains in place,” said Tusk in a prepared statement.

To be fair it revolved around the customs issue but none the less the EU had mentioned Canada +++.

I do not see the argument as to why the CETA arrangement was passed by the EU but it is not acceptable for the UK as they are both ' third countries' alongside Japan etc.

I am coming round to the thinking that there will be some kind of trade deal - it would be absolute madness not to have one. I think (and I admit I could be wrong) that this is all smoke and mirrors to cover Johnson's and the Conservatives' backs because I don't think it's going to be very popular.

I too think there will be trade deals done. It would be devastating for both sides if not. Common sense will prevail at the 11th hour....

I think common sense already has prevailed. All this bluster is just to cover up and keep people happy and believing that he'll deliver what they want. I suspect the idea is to cause as much chaos as possible, then pick up what ever pieces are left without people noticing what's actually going on and what the aim has been all along.

When my Son in law who works for Audi (cars) tells me it's time to start worrying, I will. As it stands he's not a tad concerned.

Volkswagen, of which Audi is a part, has indicated that it has made contingency plans for prices rises. It's expecting disruptions to supply.

Actually, we have now gone beyond the question put in the OP - and should be changed:

do you think BJ will be able, in any way, shape or form- to negotiate a deal, never mind with the EU, but with the USA?

Liz Truss says they are prepared to walk away from both - as if they were still 'holding all the cards' ...

and then?