Is Johnson getting bored?

And I think one of the funniest things is that people who voted for BJ imagined he was somehow going to make people more equal, when he has always been a privileged toff. I agree with the point about his indifference but I don't find it funny, just very, very sad.
trisher you really are stretching it now with this new definition of poor. You wouldn't allow for it in so many other situations we debate on these boards. Compared to the very richest in this country 99% of us would be poor Why not admit you made an emotive statement that really doesn't hold up? Trying to gild the lily adds nothing to sensible debate.

janipat there is nothing in my post that doesn't hold up. You may not think you are poor, but I bet BJ does and he knows he doesn't have to consider those people for 5 years. The rich of course he has to smooze for the party.

I think:

1) that trisher used the word 'funny' in its sense of 'odd', 'peculiar'. (That's how I read it, anyway)

2) She's not redefining 'poverty' as it is generally understood, just trying to explain how the wealthy government ministers, and their donors, regard it. After all, a PM who states that he can't manage on £141,000 pa seems to have a very different view of what constitutes 'poverty' from how most of us would see it.

I stand by my assertion that flooding and coronavirus do not mostly affect the poor, as they do not discriminate. And MaizieD trisher's comment do you realy imagine that people who can afford their own yacht are going to be found on an overcrowded cruise ship, is redefining poor Are you also of the opinion that the poor are more at risk of the virus and flooding? I really don't think either of you would sanction such "fluidity" of definition in other circumstances. I'll use any truthful argument as a stick to beat Johnson with, but to try to use a virus and flooding defeats sane debate in my opinion.

What Jura2 said upthread - I think he's not so much bored as realising he's bitten off more than he can chew. The times I've seen him answering questions about anything lately (not necessarily flooding of coronavirus) he seems to be floundering and relying on waffle to get him through.

I can see both sides here. Flooding does affect all strata of society. As with most things, those at the top will recover more quickly. A virus is indiscriminate but overcrowding, no access to basics must make some groups more vulnerable. On my mind are the tens of thousands of displaced people turning up, for example at the Greek border.

Can't follow your logic I'm afraid, janipat. I'll duck out of this one.

I'm not following trisher's logic unfortunately.
If that logic means that anyone who is not in the extremely wealthy bracket in this country is considered poor by the PM then that, to me, is illogical.

Greymar
Refugees will be very vulnerable if the virus should reach them. At the moment many are living in acres of mud with poor shelter anyway, no sanitation.
However, not many people on GN seem to care as threads about this have petered out or ended in acrimony or accusations of virtue signalling.

People on the cruise ship proved to be vulnerable; however, someone who can afford eg £15,000+ for a cruise is hardly in the same bracket of poverty.

It does bring a new and ridiculous definition to the word poor.

I know that threads often meander but this one seems seems to be getting sidetracked a little and moving away from the focus which really should be on Johnson and his lacklustre performance, his inability to react quickly and appropriately to serious matters affecting the UK and his apparent reluctance to take charge of his Govt.

BJ seems also to be incapable of controlling ministers like Priti Patel or spads like Cummings. This government is seriously out of control.

It is a classic example of the danger of having a sham democracy with a FPTP electoral system.

Mature democracies all use proportional systems of elections which result in the need for co-operation between parties and checks and balences which we just don't have.

Is that what it was about SirChenjin!

I thought before he became PM, which I did predict would never happen, that he may he very clever but his brain is never focussed. His thoughts seem to be random and spontaneous rather than careful and considered of the consequences.

I agree Callistemon - he appears to be all over the place and certainly not measured in his approach. He strikes me as the class clown - popular boy but lacks focus and ability. Must do better. C minus.

Fortunately for Johnson, he has a good Cabinet and plenty of advisors plus a big majority in Parliament.All those things should see him through his term of office, whatever his personal failings.

According to The Telegraph, Boris Johnson has signed a contract giving Dominic Cummings 'jurisdiction' over government projects

That doesn’t surprise me varian. When you have an ineffectual PM, some poorly performing and bullying members of the cabinet and an unelected beanie wearing advisor leading the country the poo will hit the fan sooner or later - especially if Brexit starts to unravel the way it appears to be going.

Someone sent me this:

Fortunately for Johnson, he has a good Cabinet

Oh, Lemon can you hand on heart without Googling tell us who is in the Cabinet, and what they are good at?

I like to think I keep abreast of political goings on but I honestly can't think of more than a couple Cabinet members and never mind if they are good or not!

That’s exactly what it’s like Maizie

Lemon- how can you still say this-is just beyond me.

Now Johnson has signed a contract giving Cummings charge of Government projects- how can this mean take back control from un-elected politicians?!?!?

Come back Theresa, all is forgiven

Each one that departs, you hope against hope, the next will be better. Who are BJs so called good advisors please?

When I was at Johnson’s old university an old Etonian friend told me he’d never met anyone like me before. He meant poor. Except I went to private school, grammar school, grew up in a detached house, had horse riding and ballet lessons etc. I certainly l was not poor!

Do yeah I suspect Johnson does see most of us as riff raid.

Another child on the way. Wonder what he thinks of single mums on benefits with kids by different fathers...

This government is the most out of control I remember. It does raise all sorts of questions about our democracy for me.

It is a different world and how easily people were manipulated by the right wing press. Oh and please, nobody, jump in with 'what about Corbyn' An absolute disaster. The playfields of Harrow and Eton. Makes me sick.

Did the left-behinds not vote leave, then vote Tory to get rid of the "elites"?