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Is Johnson getting bored?

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Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 13:42:50

It occurred to me yesterday that we have seen little of the PM in recent days. Not as if anything much is happening, what with serious flooding, an international health crisis and now the stock markets in freefall. I wondered if perhaps he is getting bored with the tedium of being PM? Before this weeks PMQs he has not been seen in public for 12 days. Perhaps is OK for him to be holed up in Chequers over the weekend? What do you think??

Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 22:38:08

The only politician they could find to string a few words together on the News at Ten was Jeremy Hunt. What does that tell you about the leadership? It's quite extraordinary with the state of near panic in some parts of the populace and the actual panic in the financial markets.

growstuff Fri 28-Feb-20 22:48:08

Unfortunately voters didn't agree with you Barmeyoldbat. There is plenty of evidence from canvassers that people just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Corbyn.

It's also true that voters have short memories and don't look at the bigger picture.

Johnson doesn't have leadership qualities, but he (or rather Cummings) have manipulated things, so that there is no effective brake on what he does. One only has to look at GN to realise that any opposition has an uphill task. people have entrenched views and it's difficult to shift them.

Dollymac Fri 28-Feb-20 22:49:11

He is, indeed, conspicuous by his absence. ..
No, it's not good look is it?
Coronavirus
Not supporting those who are flooded...
He enjoyed a bumper weekend, culminating in a prospective tennis match, with an Oligarch's wife for £90,000
I agree with Pink, he won't last five years

cupaffull Fri 28-Feb-20 23:10:46

The Prime Minister is the DIRECTOR of the orchestra of ministers and should not be dashing about the country at the behest of detractors and the Media, social and broadcast!
He has Ministers to do the running around. Use the analogy of running a business.....someone has to have oversight.

Imo, he should be holed up in the office doing the strategic planning for the UK's future. We need him to focus on all the shennagans of the EU negotiations. He at least can talk to them on their own level and in their own language and doesn't succumb to their bullying tactics.
And also more lately on the potential financial implications of Coronavirus as that could feasibly impact on investment north of the Watford Gap. Time to level out investment throughout the UK rather than preferentially to the south.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 23:33:56

I do hope so Dolly - the UK deserves some much better than the blonde buffoon.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 23:34:03

So

Greymar Sat 29-Feb-20 08:40:05

We were constantly told how very clever BJ is. Although his alleged linguistic skills appear to be fake. He is so super intelligent, he doesn't need to declare flooding a disaster and put in centralised plans to help people. He is so super intelligent he doesn't need to give clear guidance and lead on the COVID19 situation.

Cunco Sat 29-Feb-20 09:18:31

Greymar There is plenty of guidance about coronavirus. It may not be clear or convincing but that is because there are no clear and convincing answers.

We will be in a better position to judge whether Johnson has been productively employed next week when, it is reported, the government will reveal plans for a State of Emergency should that be required.

It would be good, if a State of Emergency is what we face, if politicians would work together until it passed. I suspect that will not happen. I hope I am wrong but whatever is said next week, I suspect it will still be the same yah, boo, hiss.

growstuff Sat 29-Feb-20 09:25:40

cupafful He has a Chancellor to that - if only he'd let him get on with his job.

The role of Prime Minister is to be leader. People need to trust him and he needs to be visible and inspire people.

Did anybody actually believe he has linguistic skills? grin

SirChenjin Sat 29-Feb-20 09:28:05

I would have expected there to have been a plan in place well before now - or at least an attempt by this Govt to be seen to be taking it seriously. Yah, boo, hiss is what rightly happens to underperforming politicians - it’s called looking beyond the bluster and bluff and holding them to account for their actions (or lack thereof).

Cunco Sat 29-Feb-20 09:42:44

SirChenjin Yes indeed; and we have had so many underperforming politicians in recent years. As we move into a possible State of Emergency, it is rather disconcerting that our opposition parties are busy in interminable procedures to find leaders to replace two of their own.

For government, it is a fine line between keeping business going and dealing with a threat of unknown proportions. It would be for any government. Yah, boo, hiss just doesn't cut it for me.

Daisymae Sat 29-Feb-20 09:48:31

I think that the government are way behind the curve with the handling of the virus. People are looking to the net for information. Which is why there's so much misinformation. Something has to fill the vacuum.

trisher Sat 29-Feb-20 10:33:02

If anyone believes he is actually doing any planning or organising they are labouring under a delusion. He's passed all that over to Cummings. He's busy smoozing rich supporters for the Conservatives. As for flooding and the Corona virus, well they will mostly affect poor people and he's got another 5 years before he has to face them again.and in the words of Mr Micawber "Something will turn up!".

SirChenjin Sat 29-Feb-20 10:43:35

Cunco - it’s not the job of the opposition party to halt their leadership campaign to order to advise the incumbent PM and his cabinet on how to put emergency plans on place. You’re well aware of that, of course.

I agree trisher, he really doesn’t give a toss as it doesn’t affect him - he got the votes and no he can kick back and let someone else get on with the job of prime ministering. I see that one of their top blokes has just resigned and is now pursuing a constructive dismissal claim. There’s too much of this at the moment - it could get very interesting.

GagaJo Sat 29-Feb-20 10:46:38

JUST the wrong time to have a crap government too. I hope Cummings has some idea about what to do. How the hell would we know, given that he didn't have to go through the electoral process.

varian Sat 29-Feb-20 10:47:45

The person who has resigned is the permanent secretary at the Home Office and he will sue for constructive dismissal citing the appalling treatment of civil servants by Pritti Patel.

SirChenjin Sat 29-Feb-20 10:53:24

Yep - it seems like a toxic environment is being allowed to flourish by an ineffectual PM.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 29-Feb-20 10:53:59

Oh Urms you do make me laugh with your worship of Boris.

trisher Sat 29-Feb-20 11:00:07

I'm just surprised that anyone thinks he will be busy working to fulfil his commitment to the electorate. This is a man who is lacking in any such thing. He can't even remember how many kids he has fathered and yet they believe he is working for them! shock

MaizieD Sat 29-Feb-20 11:00:41

The person who has resigned is the permanent secretary at the Home Office

This is an absolutely top civil service post. The implications are serious. We also have one of Javid's sacked spads going to an industrial tribunal over her dismissal. hmm

Who'll put money on Boris's no. 1 fan now posting something about these people being Remainers and, hooray, the swamp is being drained? wink

janipat Sat 29-Feb-20 11:49:02

I despise Johnson, am absolutely sure that Cummings is pulling his strings, and leading this country to hell in a handcart, so there is no need for statements such as As for flooding and the Corona virus, well they will mostly affect poor people and he's got another 5 years before he has to face them again. Do you have a link to evidence of these statements trisher? I suppose all those people on cruise ships, holidays in Italy etc were absolutely destitute? As far as I'm aware coronavirus doesn't discriminate, and floodwater doesn't deviate around homeowner homes. That a state of emergency hasn't been declared about the flooding is disgraceful, but it doesn't help to misrepresent the situation.

trisher Sat 29-Feb-20 11:56:28

janipat the people attending the Conservative Winter Party are the people I am talking about. They don't worry about things lke flooding or even the Corona virus and compared with them most of us are poor. Of course I may be wrong and you might be able to afford £90,000 for a tennis match.

janipat Sat 29-Feb-20 12:04:59

I wish! Even if I wouldn't waste it on that smile. I don't follow how your statement referred to them though, you've said both the virus and flooding mostly affect poor people and I don't see that at all. Both don't discriminate.

Davidhs Sat 29-Feb-20 12:09:48

You don’t go around sacking permanent secretaries without consequences I think Patels days are numbered. The civil service is there to advise ministers how to administer policy, what is possible and practical when changes are proposed.

An example might be. If changes in immigration policy are proposed, does this compromise citizen/human rights that the courts would overrule?.

No idea if that is the problem but it’s a good candidate.

trisher Sat 29-Feb-20 12:28:51

janipat of course they don't 'discriminate' but do you realy imagine that people who can afford their own yacht are going to be found on an overcrowded cruise ship, or sweeping out flood water from their home? You see that's the problem with thinking because you manage and live a comfortable life your life is somehow comparable with the rich. You might have problems self isolating, they wouldn't. You might have your home flooded, they have other places they can live if one of their properties is. Compared with them we are the poor. And that's who Johnson is governing for (or rather not governing but pimping for the Conservative party while Cummings governs)
And I think one of the funniest things is that people who voted for BJ imagined he was somehow going to make people more equal, when he has always been a privileged toff.