Leaving Archie behind

I don't pretend to know about the feelings of the Queen and other members of the royal family towards seeing the baby.
Nothing to stop this couple extending their paid -for visit into a private one so that the child would have time to settle. He was taken to to Ibiza, Africa, Elton John's hideaway and Canada.

I do recognise a classic technique of estrangement, when the dominant parent controls access to the child, and the weaker parent stands by and lets it happen.

I think you are right eazybee It's sad for the Queen and Prince Philip to be treated this way but seems to happen in many families.

It's not " long-haul " Vegansrock. The furthest part of Canada is only a third of the distance to Sydney, 9hrs or thereabout.

There's no reason why that child couldn't have travelled with them with nanny in tow. I thought it was so mean considering the ages of the Queen and Duke. It puts an entirely different light on their attitudes now-----selfish and thoughtless ! Typical of many ordinary families.

ellanvannin Canada may not be as far as Australia , but it certainly counts as long haul in aviation terms. Why disrupt the child, who is at peak age for anxiety about changes in routine for a short visit?With the tim difference it would mean settling them to a new sleep/ wake routine. By the time they’d done that it would be time to return.

Archies great grandparents won`t be here for much longer and would have loved to see him as I`m sure his cousins would.
Seems a bit out of character for Harry tbh.
I hope he doesn`t live to regret it.

Haven’t read all the thread, but maybe it was decided to leave Archie at home because of the corona virus, and also because his parents won’t be away for very long. I suspect he spends quite a bit of time with nanny or whoever anyway.
As for the Queen and D of E, well, although much is made of ‘family’, I imagine at their age they are not too bothered about seeing him in the flesh. GGC are yet another step away, and I wouldn’t think they are upset really. Although like the rest of GN, I have no idea what they think of course!

Maybe they have a tighter security/travel budget since intention to leave royal role?

Would he have seen any of his extended family? Don't they all have timetables and schedules that are booked months or even years in advance? Why do GNers persist in pretending the RF operates just like they do? It's not just pathetic it's delusional. And what mother would bring her child to a country where his great grandmother could, if she wanted, legally claim him?

Vegansrock---they wouldn't have noticed any time difference travelling first class with its sleeping arrangements, babies usually sleep if the parents are sensible enough about time differences.

If they’d brought him, they’d have been called out for not caring about his health.

There is no winning for this couple.

If people are so eager for them to get on with private lives, why not make it easier and stop gossiping about discussing them?

Ellan, have you have travelled with a small child?

They absolutely get jet lag. Even with sensible parents.

Depending on where they flew from, it’s either a 6-9 hour time difference!