Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

That’s a ‘put up or shut up’ suggestion then grandad?

Extract from Matthew Parris' article in today's Times.

Not many Prime Ministers have had to face a pandemic of this magnitude in living memory.

But, oddly enough, most countries' leaders have managed to deal with it much more effectively than Johnson. The highest death toll in Europe, when we had ample warning and the example of countries ahead of us in the number of infections to indicate how to act to contain the spread, is not a record to be proud of. He 'struggled', not because it was a new and unprecedented experience but because he is basically not up to the job. And, for the most part, the British public is recognising this.

I'm sure Boris is everything you all say,but a coward and a fool he is not!

What, the man who is invisible for large chunks of time and refuses to answer questions in any meaningful way, ducking answers to the parliamentary liaison committee and restricting press access? He 's doing this because his string puller, Cummings, is well aware that he is a bumbling fool who's just not up to the job at all.

Did he really have a baby shower at Chequers in February when the pandemic was spreading like wildfire?

Interestingly.

The three countries with the worse death toll and who are least able to manage the pandemic all have right wing populist governments.

USA U.K. Brazil.

Grandad, that was a splendid little homily and I am happy to acknowledge that, on the whole, people are willing to try to make things work; though I think there is a measure of self interest involved in working to try to protect their jobs and livelihoods.

But, fervent socialist that you are, don't you find it difficult to be optimistic when we have a government that is supremely indifferent to the general prosperity and wellbeing of the population they have theoretically, been entrusted with the care of?

So it's been reported, Maybee. I would think it would have been CArrie's udea rather than his, though...

MaizieD, in regard to your two above posts, I am a fervent socialist in my core beliefs. However, I am also a fervent realist who accepts that the electorate rejected my beliefs and those of many others in the Labour movement at the last general election, and therefore we must go forward with what the nation voted for at this point in time.

As socialists, we must first and foremost "sort out" the many problems within the Labour Party the first of which will come to actualization in a few days with the release of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission report into antisemitism within the Labour Party.

That will bring forward several other major problems, which, not least will be the insolvency of the Parliamentary Labour Party. If and when all those problems within the movement are resolved we can again turn our attention to the wider political forum, for by that time the true economic impact of Brexit and the Covid-19 crisis will have become fully known to the electorate in Britain

Jeremy corbyn brought up in posts yet again.

Do you really take any notice of the throwaway remarks made by the hard of thinking, Lucca?

Lucca

Jeremy corbyn brought up in posts yet again.

Where has Jeremy Corbyn been brought spoken of in the last dozen posts in this thread Lucca?????

Enoch Powell he was a racist.

Sorry All just realized I made a mistake as Enoch Powell was not a Prime Minister I was thinking of something else.

Great post Grandad1943 well said!

I think the fact that this country has recorded over 40,000 deaths - and still rising - speaks for itself.

On Tuesday, The I reported:

"The Joint Biosecurity Centre (JBC) was announced by the Prime Minister three weeks ago, its job being to monitor the number of Covid-19 cases and the transmission rate of the disease. [my emphasis].

"Yet, as England moved into phase two of its lockdown easing, Mr Hancock told the Downing Street daily briefing that the JBC "still formally needs to come into existence."

A fancy organisation name and a multi-coloured graph denoting different threat levels does not convince me. It appears that the threat level was decided upon before the organisation responsible for assessing it was fully operational. It is farcical.

The Tory Party supporting Spectator

"There is little escaping an obvious reality: this is a PM without clothes. The country can see this, even if cabinet Ministers & Tory MP's pretend not to. He is what he is & he is not up to the job."

Wow.

That’s one journalist Whitewave just as Matthew Parris is one Conservative voting journalist.He has had run ins with Johnson over the years and become very bitter about leaving the EU.He tends to rant now.

That was a good post Grandad1943 ....even though I don’t agree with most of your views.You may well be the only Socialist on here who is also a realist.

Mathew Parris is the little boy who first shouted out that the Emperor was wearing no clothes. I bet others from the Tory party will follow.

I guess most of the Tory MPs, if not most of their party members, already know that.

When I was telling for the LibDems at the last election, I was with two Tory women who were pro-EU, and clearly knew what a fraud Johnson was, but for them, it was always going to be party before country, no matter how much damage was done.

The point is though lemon that The Spectator is prepared to publish such a critical article.

There is no doubt that there is a great deal of unease at Johnson’s limitations.

Am sure there is Whitewave but there also was for T May if you remember.Two completely differing characters, she was hard working, a details person, happily married, chose her words with care etc etc and yet.....He may well be none of those things and yet still get things done.He may not get them done either ?but the point is, he has to be allowed some time as PM for the electorate to decide that.

Not the electorate but the Tory party.

Grandad. Jabberwok ‘s post 10:13

The Tory Party were the ones that insisted they wanted him as PM so they will have to chill out for a bit.?

FGS,all I said was, 'would a J.C government have managed any better, I doubt it'! Hardly a hanging remark!!