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Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-May-20 19:13:26

I don’t mean whether you agree with certain political policies, I am talking about competence, knowledge and integrity.

I truthfully can’t think of a single one.

All PMs have a weakness, no doubt but this goes beyond anything I’ve every seen or read.

Grandad1943 Sat 06-Jun-20 21:29:45

Apparently, Jeremy rang up patsy and told her they had got all the messages restored. He then quoted a couple of the messages to her to prove that had been done. She then went very quiet he said.

Grandad1943 Sat 06-Jun-20 21:31:32

Apologies the above was meant for our family WhatsApp group.

Bit of family candle. ?

MaizieD Sat 06-Jun-20 21:33:44

Sounds interesting, though, Grandad... hmm

growstuff Sat 06-Jun-20 21:40:04

Matthew Parris is a bit more than a random Conservative-voting journalist. He was a Conservative MP when Thatcher was PM.

Grandad1943 Sat 06-Jun-20 21:41:12

Yes much scandal in the family but that is being brought in by outsiders to the detriment of all in our family MaizieD.

Anyway back to the thread topic. ?

growstuff Sat 06-Jun-20 21:46:15

I wonder if this is an internal Conservative Party dispute and the G--l--ove is off.

Grandad1943 Sat 06-Jun-20 22:15:43

I believe that Matthew Parris was at one time a strong Labour supporter. I may be right in thinking that he is or was married to Harold Wilsons Daughter.

lemongrove Sat 06-Jun-20 22:27:31

Nope...he was a Tory MP and furthermore...is gay.?

Grandad1943 Sat 06-Jun-20 22:29:18

Oh, apologies to you Lemongrove and all. ?

lemongrove Sat 06-Jun-20 22:30:40

grin
It’s late moon

growstuff Sat 06-Jun-20 22:56:29

Night lemongrove.

Callistemon Sat 06-Jun-20 23:00:47

Didn't Harold and Mary have two sons? Not a daughter as far as I remember.

Callistemon Sat 06-Jun-20 23:01:30

moon

Although the night is young

growstuff Sat 06-Jun-20 23:02:42

I don't think Harold Wilson ever had a daughter.

growstuff Sat 06-Jun-20 23:03:03

SNAP Callistemon.

Galaxy Sat 06-Jun-20 23:07:59

He had two sons.

growstuff Sun 07-Jun-20 04:31:06

This one reason people don't believe what the government says:

twitter.com/i/status/1269420773954945025

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jun-20 06:10:28

Johnson now has a real balancing act to achieve (some hope).

The economy is tanking because of covid.

It will tank even further after December.

The two together will bring disaster onto our heads, so he must try and get the economy moving before December in the hope that Some of the appalling results will be mitigated.

The question is - can this be done without further deaths and the answer of course is no.

Question

How can this be done but blame not attached to government?

Answer

Blame the stupid population of course! Nothing to see here.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jun-20 13:50:16

Along with Mexico, Johnson has the lowest approval rating in the world for the management of covid

Ilovecheese Mon 08-Jun-20 15:26:39

In case anyone thinks that Mathew Parris was ever a leftie.

" In 1984, Parris, at the time a freshly elected Tory MP flushed with enthusiasm for the Thatcherdom, agreed to try living for a week in a Newcastle bedsit on £26.80, the supplementary benefit paid to a single unemployed man.

For the Benefit of Mr Parris, a World in Action documentary that drew a record 13 million viewers, showed "the comfortable Tory MP for West Derbyshire", as Julian Barnes called him in an Observer review, informing an audience of Tory ladies that unemployment "should be uncomfortable", in order to sharpen the appetites of the jobless for work.

Since the government of which he was a member had just cut benefits by 5% and was presiding – as Parris himself wrote – "over an economy in which whole forests of jobs in manufacturing were falling to the monetarist axe", a lot of people wanted to see how he would survive his week. He didn't."
(from an article in The Guardian after Ian Duncan Smith pretended he would be able to survive on JSA.)

Conservative through and through, but now seeing through Boris Johnson

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Jun-20 12:34:01

The Tories must dread PMQs.

Yet another car crash for Johnson. He tried to lie his way out of the accusation that he has no clear plan for the return of schools but Starmer would have none of it and brought him up sharp.

Johnson has been criticised by various committees for having no clear plan based on scientific evidence regarding the relaxing of the lockdown rules.

It seems listening to him whiffle on that he seems to think if he says plan often enough he can convince us that he has one.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Jun-20 12:38:34

Why we are in such a mess

Lucca Wed 10-Jun-20 12:39:15

Or just be honest (?!) and say it is really nigh on impossible to have a firm plan

MaizieD Wed 10-Jun-20 12:42:35

He did have a plan, followed it faithfully:

From the FT yesterday grin

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Jun-20 12:43:26

Couldn’t bring himself to criticise Trump.

I thought Johnson wanted sovereignty and freedom to plough his own furrow? He clearly is unable to as he is so desperate for any sort of trade agreement from Trump before November, as after that date Trump may not be there and it is highly doubtful that a democratic President will put the U.K. before the Eu