Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

just out of curiosity Annie when did any of those PM's EVER say ,live on TV ,that they "aren't allowed to give information anymore"? Surely if you're PM then its YOUR job to govern...or do I live in a parallel universe ?
And following on that WHO doesn't allow him to give information? Cummings?

paddyanne BJ didn't admit that he hadn't read any of the scientific evidence about CV

He said he hadn't read the full reports but had read the synopses and conclusions. I would not expect him to read the full scientific reports as much may be incomprehensible to all but a scientist trained in that particular area of expertise; having read full summaries any questions he had arising could then be answered by scientists and medical professionals.

I think that is a fair conclusion.

What would he have to do before the apologists on here would accept he's useless..less than useless.

Talking to my 17 year old GS yesterday online,he said: Aren't we at the stage where we or America usually invade other counties? .tens of thousands of people dying at the hands of government ,people losing jobs and income and leaders who cant seem to see whats going on while they carry on with their own lives without interference"

Not so far from the truth if you look at it .Is America planning on taking control by the back door with the trade deals they're keen for us to take,will they put their man in place to answer those questions Bojo isn't allowed to answer ?

Six months Annie, during which he's had to deal with an unprecedented pandemic after 10 weeks, then deal with serious illness 2 weeks later, back to work far too soon which is blatantly obvious, and a totally hostile press. I wonder how anyone would have coped with that. He deserves a medal! Jacinda Aherne apparently also had a minister who broke the rules, he stayed in post as he was too important to get rid of. Of course J.A doesn't have our left wing press and politicians to cope with so is able to take a more balanced attitude, no wonder she always looks so cheerful!

BLINKO,

Why would Brexiteers be "^first in the queue for cheap American meat products^?"

What an absolutely ridiculous statement.

We will be continuing to buy British - supporting our own farmers is one of the main reasons for voting to leave the EU.

Agree Jabber

I have heard several people who were seriously ill with the
Coronavirus say they have PTSD.

Medical experts have said they expect many to suffer PTSD

dontmind that is of course if there are any British farmers left after the USA farmers have been allowed to undercut our farmers as well rear their meat in dirty, hormone filled conditions.

That bill was passed through this week under the radar as everyone’s attention was/is focused on Cummings

If Johnson is ill he should resign

As you probably have read none of my posts, paddyanne you may have missed the fact that I have not defended Johnson or Cummings in the slightest but.

However, I think my point about non-scientists reading involved scientific papers is a fair one.

Whitewave, you say -

“None of you get the point though do you? Or perhaps you do and can’t think of a less competent PM than Johnson so attack policies.”

The point is you asked a question!! Why are you surprised when some people reply expressing their own views which don’t agree with yours? Yes, some posters have included policies which was not strictly what the question was about but nonetheless have influenced their thoughts on the matter, but for you there is only one possible answer!

No I am willing to consider any incompetent PM who is worse than Johnson put forward.

You can put forward policies you disagree with, we can all do that, but trying to find a less competent PM is difficult.

I’m having difficulty, how about Balfour he was pretty useless?
Actually thinking about it we may have come up with the answer!
Balfour came in with a good majority and a confident Tory party. But within 3 years he had totally lost control, sacking loads (?Hmm) and losing an election, he even lost his own seat.

I think that what distinguishes Johnson from all the other PMs I have known is that all of them, however many mistakes they made seem to have had some regard for the citizens of the state they'd been chosen to lead and a vision of what they wanted to achieve. Johnson appears to have none. Which has laid him open to manipulation by all sorts of stronger characters than his, whose intentions are to gain power and wealth from chaos.

And by Cummings, who wants to destroy the state institutions, toss them up in the air and see where they land. His motives are unclear to me but they don't feel benign..

Jabberwok Thu 28-May-20 10:56:34
He deserves a medal!. My god. The delusion! Heading for 60,000 EXCESS deaths on this time last year and you want to give the PM who missed FIVE cobra meetings and went on holiday at the beginning of the crisis.

Of course J.A doesn't have our left wing press and politicians to cope with so is able to take a more balanced attitude, no wonder she always looks so cheerful!
She has reason to be cheerful. She very successfully negotiated her country through the C19 crisis, being DETERMINED to avoid mass deaths, resulting in only 22 fatalities.

Lets look at those numbers. 22 opposed to 37,400 (official figure, not considering the current excess death figure which is nearer 60,000).

OK. NZ is a LOT smaller than the UK. Approx 14 times smaller. So if BJ had done what JA did, we'd be looking at between 300 & 400 deaths. Instead we have 37,400.

She achieved this by locking down the country VERY early. Closing all ports. Test and trace. All things BJ was too busy holidaying and avoiding meetings to even think about.

And you want to give him a medal? Maybe you should just call him Teflon man, because clearly even mass murder is fine and acceptable.

Whitewave he should resign if he is ill ? Should everyone who had Coronavirus and been in intensive care resign from
their jobs because they haven’t made a rapid recovery?

Tony Blair was actually responsible for several million deaths both in the Iraq war, and the subsequent chaos not to mention the suspicious death of Dr Kelly,(remember him?!!) forces personal kitted out with totally inadequate kit, vehicles 8 fit for desert use, the list is .endless. European countries haven't fared that well, deaths certainly in the thousands, but somehow that is OK!

vehicles not fit etc.

Anniebach. If they are in charge of the country yes of course

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/27/boris-johnson-coronavirus-dominic-cummings?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1590653236
Brilliant piece of writing.

Yes the New Zealand PM is cheerful because she has done a good job.

All Labour PMs were worse than Boris, also Theresa May, whom people entrusted to get Brexit done but all she did was waste 4 years letting Barnier tell her what to do.

At least Theresa didn’t lie about customs checks with Ireland etc. Or suggested a bridge across the Irish Sea. I’m no fan of Theresa May but she was, at least, honest.

I didn't like Blair (self interested war monger) I didn't like Thatcher [old style Tory, determined to destroy public services. But Johnson is definitely the worst. The others at least had ideas and principles. He's a lying unprincipled vacuum.

Tony Blair was actually responsible for several million deaths both in the Iraq war, and the subsequent chaos

Evidence for that statement, Jabberwok?

Or are you like your pinup boy pulling figures out of the air?

I think that is common knowledge?!!! As a direct result of our interference and without a functioning government courtesy of Bush and Blair, all the furies in pandoras box broke loose and took many years to subdue, costing many many lives both American British but mostly Iraqi!
All this admiration for Mrs T gets more bizarre by the hour!!

Theresa May honest?!! No deal is better than a bad deal, an obvious lie! Brexit means brexit?!! Not for her it didn't! Out by March 2018 errr No!! Oh lets try another two dates? Oh no, they're no good either!! Not sure she was totally honest! Certainly people on here at that time didn't think so either!