Anyone else think Boris is still ill?

Surely his party shouldn't be letting him blunder on.
If they put in a deputy, temporarily, that would avoid the difficulties of selecting a new leader.
That's got to be better than someone who is not well struggling along, even if they were brilliant to start with. Which Johnson wasn't.

Maddyone - I’m certain no camera would have been slowed in the IC Ward -

I know people in such positions seem to age quickly and current situation would affect anyone. That said he looks dreadful somehow managing to look overweight and haggard at the same time.

But isn’t he the one who was only talking the other week about the need to combat obesity in this country? I don’t understand why he doesn’t do something about his own weight: especially as it is the co morbidity that almost killed him.

I think he claimed he is doing something about his overweight.
It doesn't happen instantly.

Isn't he doing press ups?

He’s better off than the 50,000 who have died thanks to his bungling of everything.

He did one press up whilst wearing a suit and tie.
We were told he had mild symptoms. He was in hospital as a precaution and was in great spirits and running the country from his hospital bed. So was he seriously ill or not? Someone is telling porkies somewhere.

vegans rock, I am convinced that Mr Johnson was seriously ill. He started with mild symptoms. I don't remember anyone saying he was in hospital as a precaution. Have I wiped that from my mind or missed it? That's entirely possible.
Whatever - no one is admitted into intensive care "as a precaution".

Iam that is exactly what we were told by Raab. They lied to us and even when he went into IC they said he was ‘sitting up’. There’s no wonder some people were therefore cynical. They played us for fools and then expect us to swallow everything. I’m
quite astonished at the short memories some people have- no wonder he’ll get away with everything.
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Iam64- I am sure he had symptoms - and was put in intensive care as a precaution because he is the PM. Don't know of a single person who was seriously ill who was not put on ventilator- and who came out a few days later.

In the clip Raab says he was taken into hospital as a precaution. They just kept lying to us - quite frankly they brought some people’s cynicism on themselves.

vegansrock

He did one press up whilst wearing a suit and tie.
We were told he had mild symptoms. He was in hospital as a precaution and was in great spirits and running the country from his hospital bed. So was he seriously ill or not? Someone is telling porkies somewhere.

No.
And he was out of action, not in great spirits, certainly not running the country from his hospital bed as Raab claimed for whatever reason.

Say what you like about Mr Johnson but I do wish people would keep intimating that the staff at St Thomas's lied.

I don't doubt he was ill.

I do doubt whether he is/or ever was fit to govern, especially in these times of pandemic.

^ I do wish people would keep intimating that the staff at St Thomas's lied.^

What exactly have any of the staff at St Thomas's said about Johnson's* illness, Callistomen?

I thought they wouldn't be able to say anything of a detailed nature (e.g the severity of the infection) because it would be breaking patient confidentiality.

I think the greater implication that is coming from posters is that Johnson lied...

I don't think they would have wasted an ICU bed on anyone who wasn't really ill, though, MaizieD - even a Prime Minister.

The staff who said that they nursed him in ICU are having their integrity questioned if posters believe that Boris was lying about being very ill.

Have any of the staff said anything? I don't think it's their integrity which is being questioned.

But it obviously is, if people believe that Boris was faking illness.

We were lied to about why he want into hospital and his state of health when he went into IC. His time in hospital was short compared with many. I do not believe for one minute it was touch and go although he did seem to go close to needing a ventilator and then the odds shorten considerably. If they hadn’t downplayed his need to go to hospital - and if he hadn’t put that off, there would be greater trust in just how ill he was and how ill he still may be.

No one has said the hospital staff lied. We said the pm and his advisor, ministers such as Raab as Hancock lied when they said he had mild symptoms, only going to hospital for tests , was in great form etc...

I think it's as much mental as physical. He's probably realised, as has everyone else, that he's just not up to the job. His ministers must be getting sick of having to go on television to atone for his gaffes - the latest being trying to blame the care homes for their Covid outbreaks.

Essentially this is a man who has cruised through life with minimal effort to maximum effect. How unfortunate for him that he has encountered a global pandemic and has to actually do a bit of work.

I think he realises that knocking out a newspaper column in half an hour for £250,000 p.a. had its attractions.

suziewoosie, yes it's all drifting back now, the nonsense from Raab. I seem to recall both he and Hopeless Hancock looked anxious and shocked when attempting to reassure us the PM was still running the country.
Yes, as vegans rock says - government ministers were the ones telling mistruths but as we all know, if Gove and co open their mouths, fibs appear.

Raab was obviously trying to minimise any fuss about Johnson being ill at the time when he (Johnson) had been admitted to hospital.He was taken in there when he had suddenly got worse.It’s not good at any time for the PM or leader of a country to be ill/out of action.
Once it became really serious then it was announced as so.
He was in ICU and you don’t go in there for a few days without very good reason.Since everything now is ‘leaked’
It would have come out long ago, had Johnson been in ICU when he was in actuality, alright.
It would have been better by far for Johnson....in every way, politically as well as healthwise, if he had the virus mildly and then bounced back.It’s nonsensical to think otherwise.

As for BJ having special precautionary treatment I completely believe it
eg if it was the Queen she would have a hospital made for her at Windsor, or wherever she is.
Our PM's status is on a slightly lower level so he had to use a NHS hospital like the rest of use. Plus special treatment.