Anyone else think Boris is still ill?

MaizieD

^I saw footage of him in the hospital^,

Where did you see that, maddyone?

I don't recall seeing any at the time.

As Cummings is running the whole show I expect whether or not Johnson is well enough is completely irrelevant.

I say keep him in post as long as possible though, he's doing a splendid job of killing off lots of his voters and p*ssing off a whole load more.

--and anyone who tells me off for 'not nice' sentiments gets reported for derailing the thread and making personal comments--

Agree with you MaizieD .

To those who don't like him being criticised - please note that we are (most of us that is) are aware of how ill he has been and concur that he still is ill and need of rest and recovery. All the more reason for him to go.

The reason for him to go isn’t because he may or may not be ill, but because he is such a lousy PM.

He did not leave his ex wife when she was fighting cancer. Her cancer confirmation came well after their marriage had broken down. This is well known so why can't some people accept it!
I admire Boris for seeing it as his duty to return to work, if he hadn't he would have been accused of shirking, lying, lazy etc etc. People have to their shame already accused him and presumably St Thomas's hospital of faking the whole episode! Imagine what these same folk would have said if he had taken further convalescence! No he doesn't seem ebullient any more, but carrying the present troubles on your shoulders must be almost impossibly daunting! Certainly certain people are, while criticising of course, (could they do better?!!) heaving a huge sigh of relief, that's for sure, cowards that they are!

That depends on your point of view! Not everyone thinks so!

Well - it is difficult. I feel very sorry for anyone who has suffered this dreadful illness, but as PM he was hopeless before and is hopeless now.

We are in a sorry state with this ineffective and entirely unsuitable man at the helm.

My major worry, if he were to have to step down, is that we might get Gove - heaven spare us all that!

Jabberwok. Please can you explain this sentence from your post “ Certainly certain people are, while criticising of course, (could they do better?!!) heaving a huge sigh of relief, that's for sure, cowards that they are!”. I genuinely don’t know what you mean ...which people? Sigh of relief about what ?
(I’m not having a go )

Jabberwok

He did not leave his ex wife when she was fighting cancer. Her cancer confirmation came well after their marriage had broken down. This is well known so why can't some people accept it!
I admire Boris for seeing it as his duty to return to work, if he hadn't he would have been accused of shirking, lying, lazy etc etc. People have to their shame already accused him and presumably St Thomas's hospital of faking the whole episode! Imagine what these same folk would have said if he had taken further convalescence! No he doesn't seem ebullient any more, but carrying the present troubles on your shoulders must be almost impossibly daunting! Certainly certain people are, while criticising of course, (could they do better?!!) heaving a huge sigh of relief, that's for sure, cowards that they are!

I can’t understand your last paragraph nor to whom you are addressing it to?

lucca snap!

It’s true he didn’t leave her whilst she was having cancer treatment - he only tomcatted around for years whilst the children were young, impregnating at least two other women ( that we know of) So phew, that’s all right then.

Yes snap luck and whitewavemark2 can't understand what you mean in your last sentence Jabber. I for one of the many criticised Boris as not being as ill as was made out and this was not a criticism of the hospital, just as PM he received special attention. Yes he does look ill and the virus, however bad you are with it, takes it out of you. I believe, as does my doctor, that I had it over Christmas along with other members of my family. I didn't go into hospital but spent over two months totally exhausted. As Boris would. He wasn't up to the job before and certainly isn't now, he should hand over the job to someone who could manage a lot better than he does now or at any other time.

As someone said earlier, I expect Theresa May, Tony Blair etc (and Corbyn) are thanking their lucky stars that they weren't PM when these multple catastrophes happened.
Perhaps poetic justice for BJ.
As well as Trump and other similar world leaders.

Blast, I thought I had pressed to view the message first to correct any mistakes, but it seems not. Please could someone find a cure for losing reading glasses.

Has anyone seen the speech made by Merkel saying how populist leaders like Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro have handled C19 so badly?

I never imagined that the U.K. would be lumped with people like that

i was reading yesterday about the long-term, often unrecognised neurological problems caused by having had covid-19.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/08/warning-of-serious-brain-disorders-in-people-with-mild-covid-symptoms

this was from UCL, Inst of Neurology, so its kosher, not akin to trumpian science.

Looking at Johnson that does make sense welbeck

FGS, somebody remarked that previous PM's + J.Corbyn must be heaving a sigh of relief that they are not the PM now! I agreed, and, in brackets, asked the question, even though these people criticise, could they have done better? Easy really!!!
I don't think anyones private life is anyone else's business. There is usually more to it than meets the eye and nothing to do with on lookers who often only know half a tale!

Jabberwok

FGS, somebody remarked that previous PM's + J.Corbyn must be heaving a sigh of relief that they are not the PM now! I agreed, and, in brackets, asked the question, even though these people criticise, could they have done better? Easy really!!!
I don't think anyones private life is anyone else's business. There is usually more to it than meets the eye and nothing to do with on lookers who often only know half a tale!

? thanks for that jabberwok

Still not quite clear, but I can live with your reply as you sound as if you are about to explode.

If he is ill - and it could be argued that he took unnecessary risks which might have contributed to his illness - he should say so and stand down.

This country needs a prime minister who is fit and capable of working at full capacity with his colleagues to deal with the very difficult challenges that now face us. Not somebody who appears to have become reliant on unaccountable special advisors to oversee governmental departments and formulate policies.

Jabberwok

FGS, somebody remarked that previous PM's + J.Corbyn must be heaving a sigh of relief that they are not the PM now! I agreed, and, in brackets, asked the question, even though these people criticise, could they have done better? Easy really!!!
I don't think anyones private life is anyone else's business. There is usually more to it than meets the eye and nothing to do with on lookers who often only know half a tale!

I beg to differ. A politician's life can be our business. Perhaps you've forgotten when he Tory party were telling us one thing and doing the exact opposite. Cecil Parkinson in particular springs to mind.

I think it is spread across all parties, Dinahmo

I remarked some time ago on another thread featuring the competence of BoJo that he was still unwell.

I am not a fan, but was willing to give the believers the benefit of the doubt, I was waiting to see his reported acuity, energy and leadership skills in action.

So far, not so good. I think he's a rubbish PM but I don't think he's well either.

I don't think he looks well. What is it with male pride? Why doesn't he admit and hand the reins to someone else. His health is more important than his ego.

I suspect that to BJ nothing is more important than his hugely inflated ego.