Anyone else think Boris is still ill?

vegansrock

No one has said the hospital staff lied. We said the pm and his advisor, ministers such as Raab as Hancock lied when they said he had mild symptoms, only going to hospital for tests , was in great form etc...

Yes!

He was more ill than we were led to believe.
Not faking it.

Call and my point was that by lying to us from the very beginning they engendered distrust in subsequent events. Hoist by their own petard.

Johnson doesn’t need to be suffering from the after effects of the virus to not be doing his job properly.

He was useless before he got ill

I can’t honestly say that I find his appearance, speech or behaviour any different to how he was before his illness.

MayBee70 - I agree he's not much different in his speech or behaviour but he looks ill. Big rings round the eyes, puffy face. If he was my son (and I'm so relieved he isn't) I'd be a bit worried. Well ok if he was my son I'd be a tad embarrassed but that isn't anything to do with his physical health.

If he was my son I’d be consumed with guilt

I agree he looks awful, but I read that he challenged Keir Starmer to do some press ups and told him he was now "as fit as a butcher's dog".

I think he looked like one of those nodding dogs in the back of cars

Yes i agee he looks ill but it doesnt help that his new haircut looks like hes had a chamberpot on his head, probably couldnt find big enough basin

I've heard whispers about excessive alcohol consumption...

Wow! Even by GN somewhat low standard on political threads, this one has really hit rock bottom.

The spite and sheer venom is disgusting, wishing ill and even death, on another human being, purely because he holds different political views. I hope none of your ilk ever gain power. It doesn’t bear thinking about what evil you might be capable of.

A friend of one of my children works on the ward he was admitted to and he was extremely unwell and his survival was doubtful at various points. He was on a ward with five others, one of whom was interviewed after he was discharged. The corridors were packed with security and mandarins deciding what to do in the event of BJ dying.

I would be concerned that this kind of ill wishing would rebound on me or my loved ones.

Perhaps he's following the example of his hero Winston Churchill.

Sussexborn

Wow! Even by GN somewhat low standard on political threads, this one has really hit rock bottom.

The spite and sheer venom is disgusting, wishing ill and even death, on another human being, purely because he holds different political views. I hope none of your ilk ever gain power. It doesn’t bear thinking about what evil you might be capable of.

A friend of one of my children works on the ward he was admitted to and he was extremely unwell and his survival was doubtful at various points. He was on a ward with five others, one of whom was interviewed after he was discharged. The corridors were packed with security and mandarins deciding what to do in the event of BJ dying.

I would be concerned that this kind of ill wishing would rebound on me or my loved ones.

Totally agree ??

Who has wished ill or death on anyone???

I think that Sussexborn has copied and pasted his/her post from the last thread we had about Johnson being ill, varian. Or it's on automatic pilot.

Nobody on this thread has wished him dead or particularly ill.

Perhaps the pearl clutchers would like to point out the posts they strongly deprecate?

I think there are some who doubt that Boris was ever seriously ill MaizieD.

Ergo casting doubt on the veracity of staff at St Thomas's ICU.

But that's got nothing to do with wishing him ill or dead, Callistomen. Which is what Sussexborn is complaining about.

And I really don't see any reason why we have to be particularly 'nice' about him. He's a vile man who is presiding over the untimely deaths of thousands of our citizens and is bent on plunging the country into a catastrophic Brexit situation at the beginning of next year. He cannot open his mouth without a torrent of lies spewing out of it and he is an embarrassing international laughing stock.

The OP just asked if we thought he might still be ill, not that we should fall over ourselves to be deeply concerned about him. People have given their opinions.

I agree, MaizieD. And his Ministers made light of his illness, probably panicking.

But one allegation is dependent upon another, ie that medical staff were complicit in the lie.

It’s really time that everyone accepted he has been very ill, whether they like him or not is immaterial.
I know that conspiracy theories proliferate on forums but this particular theory is just bonkers.
It also taints the hospital and the nurses and doctors who looked after him there.

Sussexborn. “ The spite and sheer venom is disgusting, wishing ill and even death, on another human being, purely because he holds different political views”

Where ? When ? Who ? Can you back this up ?

Will there be an answer ?

Of course not, Lucca. Jump in, fling accusations, never explain.

^ purely because he holds different political views”^

No, it's because he's a vile person, Sussexborn (though no-one on this thread is wishing him death)

I haven’t said he wasn’t seriously ill - just that we were lied to about it.
Anyway whatever, he looked like a sack of old spuds next to Sunak.

Of course we know he has been ill, and there is evidence emerging that this virus can cause irreversible changes in the brain structure and chemistry. So that is possible.

On the other hand Boris thought he had fulfilled his ambition to be PM, secure the keys to No.10 and would have a cosy ride with only a Brexit deal to cock-up. Instead he finds himself in over his head with a pandemic that requires a level of leadership he doesn’t have leading a cabinet of muppets.

So he could simply be sinking under the sudden realisation of his own stupidity.

Take you choice.