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Seems the jihadi bride Shamima Begum might be coming back to stand trial in the U.K.

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Urmstongran Fri 17-Jul-20 08:24:01

Oh no!
Once one comes back it’ll open the floodgates and they’ll all be back living here at the taxpayers expense.

I hope the Government’s appeal against her return next week is successful but it’s not looking good.

EllanVannin Sat 18-Jul-20 11:47:01

She won't be sent back, that's a foregone conclusion.

trisher Sat 18-Jul-20 11:47:54

Ooh Galaxywe could have a whole new thread on that- People I want to deport- I've got a little list!!!

Oldwoman70 Sat 18-Jul-20 11:53:43

"There are thousands of people I am not that keen on living next to. I didnt want to be anywhere near those men on the train, can I deport them?"

The difference is you were aware of those men and had a choice whether you were near them - if this woman, or any others who return, are wandering around your shopping centre you would have no idea.

Loislovesstewie Sat 18-Jul-20 11:55:22

I think you are confusing Shamina with Sharmeena Begum, Sharmeena is the one whose mother died .

Galaxy Sat 18-Jul-20 11:55:27

No I didn't, if I hadnt listened to their conversation or been in a different seat I would have been none the wiser. Those men could move in next to me tomorrow.

Galaxy Sat 18-Jul-20 11:58:52

I bet I have been on your list at times Trisher grin

Witzend Sat 18-Jul-20 11:59:52

I’m torn really. On the one hand, she was old and evidently intelligent enough to understand that she was going to join brutal terrorists who thought nothing of killing/blowing up people who had done them no harm.

On the other, given her probable upbringing, very likely she was tightly controlled/restricted, compared to many other girls of that age.

I can’t help thinking that those girls my well have had some rose-tinted, romantic Mills and Boon-y dream of running away to marry a handsome warrior - a huge adventure which would undoubtedly shock and appal their families - but it was all in the name of Allah, so that made it all right.

Chewbacca Sat 18-Jul-20 12:06:29

Did "those men on the train" collude with, and enable, a terrorist army that had committed atrocities against any one that they deemed to be kuffars? Did they affirm that they "weren't fazed" by severed heads in a bucket? Did they stitch other people into suicide jackets that would explode if they tried to take them off? Did they tote AK47 rifles in their roles as "morality police"?

If so, yes, they should be deported.

trisher Sat 18-Jul-20 12:08:54

If you are you are a long way down it Galaxy there are a lot of people I'd deal with first! grin

Galaxy Sat 18-Jul-20 12:11:26

So all rapists and murders should be deported. Where to? So the murderer of Jo Cox should be deported. These are our problems to deal with.

trisher Sat 18-Jul-20 12:14:51

What we need is a new colony Galaxy where we can dump all our undesirables. Pity about Australia wasn't it?

annep1 Sat 18-Jul-20 12:15:59

Urmstongran why pick on me?? Other folk said similar things. So I'm not going to answer your query. I will just say I have worked with offenders.

Chewbacca Sat 18-Jul-20 12:18:47

So all rapists and murders should be deported

Not if they're British Galaxy, and Shamima Begum is. And it hasn't been proven that she "raped or murdered" anyone yet.

Jellybeetles Sat 18-Jul-20 12:19:00

I feel that a fair time after she did not seem to regret her actions. I also feel that if you let her return then you would have to let many others return not really being sure if they have changed.

Galaxy Sat 18-Jul-20 12:19:59

Yes I know chewbacca that's the point I am making.

Urmstongran Sat 18-Jul-20 12:24:39

I wasn’t ‘picking’ on you annepl. Sorry if it came over that way. Yours was just one of the last comments I read that I disagreed with.

As you say, many others feel as you do. That said, many feel as I do. It’s a divisive topic!

Urmstongran Sat 18-Jul-20 12:46:21

And here we go ...

“Mehak Aslam left London for Syria in 2014, shortly after her husband, Shahan Choudhury.

He was located by ITV News to a Kurdish prison last year, where he said he had been arrested after leaving Islamic State.

Choudhury claimed to have worked as an IS gravedigger shortly before the group’s territorial defeat, burying the dead from the battle for Baghouz.

His wife, Ms Aslam, is being held at a refugee camp nearby with their five children. Both have had their British citizenship withdrawn.

Families lawyers wrote to the Foreign Office the day after a court decision to allow Shamima Begum to return to London to appeal against the deprivation of her citizenship.”

growstuff Sat 18-Jul-20 12:51:15

This current action isn't about a trial for anything she has done or not done.

This is about her legal right to attend in person a legal appeal.

growstuff Sat 18-Jul-20 12:53:15

EllanVannin

She won't be sent back, that's a foregone conclusion.

Why is it a foregone conclusion?

If she returns to the UK for the appeal, she could lose it and will be deported.

Urmstongran Sat 18-Jul-20 12:54:40

I get that growstuff. However only yesterday Savid Jared stated if she comes back here she’ll end up staying.

Oh well, no wonder she’s a happy little bunny. She said she’s ‘excited but nervous’ to be returning.

Oldwoman70 Sat 18-Jul-20 13:10:42

growstuff where could she be sent? She is not a citizen of any country - no other country will accept her so once on UK soil she will be staying.

tickingbird Sat 18-Jul-20 13:49:54

Once she’s back here she’ll stay here as there’s nowhere to deport her to.

As for idealistic young girls/men going off to fight for their fellow muslims is nonsense too. Isis were a killing machine/death cult and killing, raping and enslaving their fellow muslims was their bread and butter. Apparently butchering muslims is fine as long as they’re the wrong sort of muslim according to Isis, who are Sunni. It’s not as if they were murdering wholesale the evil westerners but who knows? Maybe one day if we keep bending over backwards to accommodate them.

Loislovesstewie Sat 18-Jul-20 14:04:48

The picture I have in my mind is of that young pilot being burnt to death in a cage. For days after I saw that I could hardly sleep. Sometimes I wonder if we have evolved far from our early ancestors.
I am just concerned about who will return next and what they plan to do when here, and I do understand that many are already back . To me, that is the worry in all of this.

Sparkling Sat 18-Jul-20 14:07:52

No she shouldn’t, try her by video link. We will fund her legal aid, plus benefits she will no doubt be on for eternity. Who are these people that want her back. It’s a joke but it’s serious, goodness knows it will open the floodgates. Let’s look after the people that actually support Gt Britain. No remorse, just that blank sullen face, she wants to come here as there’s nothing where she is.

biba70 Sat 18-Jul-20 14:07:54

I truly do not know how to reply to last 2 posts. She was 15 - try and imagine yourself, your children and grandchildren at 15. I find some of the comments here on GN truly disturbing- with racism and bile just below, and often above, the surface.