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We need a coup

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GagaJo Thu 22-Oct-20 13:52:01

Whether it is an internal Tory overthrow or another political group, we need the current criminal incompetents removed from power. They are willfully causing needless C19 deaths and in-full-view pocketing tax payer money with only the flimsiest of attempts to pretend they're not.

I'm no Tory (god forbid) but bloody hell, what we need now is a Margaret Thatcher to sort this unholy mess Boris and his buddies are making.

GagaJo Tue 27-Oct-20 13:15:51

I assumed you were being ironic Trisher. Genteel is certainly not the word I'd use.

I'd be interested to hear what the right wing government support on here think has been done well too.

trisher Tue 27-Oct-20 13:08:42

Jaberwok I send sympathy for your loss.
I called right wingers "genteel" because we left wingers had been referred to as "rough" and as they are diametrically opposite to us, I assumed they nest be genteel. Sorry if this doesn't fit, neither does "rough". So perhaps we should ignore both.
Still no reply about a better test and trace system, or what the government has done well.

westendgirl Tue 27-Oct-20 13:06:14

Sending sympathy to you Jaberwok.

Jaberwok Tue 27-Oct-20 12:59:53

Thank you Janpt too.?

Alegrias2 Tue 27-Oct-20 12:53:12

Sorry, just noticed mistake in my earlier post. When I said Number of deaths per thousand in the UK I should have said Number of deaths per million
Apologies, again.

Jaberwok Tue 27-Oct-20 12:48:09

Incidentally we are not genteel! Why do you constantly feel it necessary to provoke us?!

Jaberwok Tue 27-Oct-20 12:43:51

Thank you Sparklefizz, much appreciated . While my Aunt was a very old lady she was, a bit like the Queen, in pretty good nick! The frightening thing was how quickly she went from being ok to very ill to death. I think if people realised how quickly and lethally this virus can strike they might be more prepared to obey government guidelines in order to try and stamp it out. We live in hopes!

Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 11:57:49

Iam64

Thanks Natasha for confirming what most of us know, that moderators work on an apolitical basis.

I would be interested to see someone answer the question trisher poses. What has this government done well.

Additionally, for someone to explain why Angela Raynor muttering 'scum' then apologising is proof she isn't fit to hold office where in contrast, our PM can use language most of us would consign to the gutter. There are numerous examples on this thread. "spaffing up the wall", muslim women described as 'letter boxes', disgusting comments about gay men. The list is too long to repeat.

I don't know about apolitical. Have any of your left wing posts been deleted unlike mine ? Don't try to tell me that they have all met the guidelines.

Iam64 Tue 27-Oct-20 11:40:33

Thanks Natasha for confirming what most of us know, that moderators work on an apolitical basis.

I would be interested to see someone answer the question trisher poses. What has this government done well.

Additionally, for someone to explain why Angela Raynor muttering 'scum' then apologising is proof she isn't fit to hold office where in contrast, our PM can use language most of us would consign to the gutter. There are numerous examples on this thread. "spaffing up the wall", muslim women described as 'letter boxes', disgusting comments about gay men. The list is too long to repeat.

Sparklefizz Tue 27-Oct-20 11:26:32

Jaberwok I'm so sorry for your loss. flowers for you in these difficult times.

NatashaGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 27-Oct-20 11:11:00

Hi all - we're just popping on again, as we can see this thread has become very heated, and has continued to go in the direction of a personal spat - which isn't useful to anyone.

Please do refrain from personal attacks - we may not always agree or hold the same views, but personal comments aren't helpful to the thread.

Also just a reminder that we moderate on an apolitical basis. We do not delete posts because of the political sentiment they express, only when the way they are expressed contravenes our guidelines. Please do report any personal attacks and we will take a look. flowers

trisher Tue 27-Oct-20 11:06:16

Janpt perhaps instead of accusing GN of left wing bias (I can assure you it isn't) you could address the question. What has this government done well? Its test and trace system is a joke and unfit for purpose. If an efficient system was in place there would be a chance of getting things under control.

Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 11:01:29

trisher

Unfortunately Gagajo you will be fighting a losing battle. Debate on GN consists of right wingers going "Oh you left wingers are rough and being nasty". Possibly because they realise they have backed a losing horse and are trying todeflect rom the result by resorting to personal remarks

Don't be so ridiculous. The only losing horses are the left wingers who can't accept that they lost the race !!

Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 10:58:53

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thread obviously only for left wing views !!

Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 10:57:30

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Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 10:56:38

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Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 10:50:34

Jaberwok

Honestly Lemon, Janpt, I am just appalled at a the rudeness on this thread to both of you on a personal level, and am amazed that either of you still attempt to offer other opinions let alone pursue them!!
My 95 year old aunt died on Saturday, in her excellent Care Home where she had been resident for two years. Yes, she died of Covid yes we are very upset as she was much loved by us all . No we are not blaming the government, no we will not be on TV or anywhere else accusing anyone of mismanagement, lack of judgement or anything else. As far as we are concerned, the government have done their best in very difficult unpresidented circumstances as has th Care Home! We had hoped she would get that telegram, but there you go! Boris didn't say the virus would be over by Xmas, he said he was determined to get the virus under control and be able to relax the rules for the holiday period. Other countries have had exactly the same problems as we have, but of course we're the only country to get any criticism! How very predictable particularly on here!

Thank you for your message of support. It's quite lonely on here and I now see that Gransnet has deleted two of my messages. I think the whole site is left wing and I am out numbered. I'm sorry to hear about your aunt. It's such a sad time for so many people. Glad to hear that you are not blaming the government as so many do. They won't acknowledge what a very difficult job they have in dealing with this unprecedented situation.

Jaberwok Tue 27-Oct-20 10:41:10

Honestly Lemon, Janpt, I am just appalled at a the rudeness on this thread to both of you on a personal level, and am amazed that either of you still attempt to offer other opinions let alone pursue them!!
My 95 year old aunt died on Saturday, in her excellent Care Home where she had been resident for two years. Yes, she died of Covid yes we are very upset as she was much loved by us all . No we are not blaming the government, no we will not be on TV or anywhere else accusing anyone of mismanagement, lack of judgement or anything else. As far as we are concerned, the government have done their best in very difficult unpresidented circumstances as has th Care Home! We had hoped she would get that telegram, but there you go! Boris didn't say the virus would be over by Xmas, he said he was determined to get the virus under control and be able to relax the rules for the holiday period. Other countries have had exactly the same problems as we have, but of course we're the only country to get any criticism! How very predictable particularly on here!

Galaxy Tue 27-Oct-20 10:39:56

I would just quite like it if those defending the government would address some or any of the issues raised. Numerous posters have mentioned the endless lists of inappropriate language used by johnson, how is he any different to angela rayner in this regard.

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trisher Tue 27-Oct-20 10:30:42

Unfortunately Gagajo you will be fighting a losing battle. Debate on GN consists of right wingers going "Oh you left wingers are rough and being nasty". Possibly because they realise they have backed a losing horse and are trying todeflect rom the result by resorting to personal remarks

Elegran Tue 27-Oct-20 10:27:26

5) And GagaJo only mentioned the five years of study she did to become a teacher AFTER she had been told it only took one year.

GagaJo Tue 27-Oct-20 10:20:16

1) I didn't mention LG's grammar.

2) I wrote about reading comprehension.

3) I didn't imply it was a lack of intelligence. I said it was a DELIBERATE misreading. Putting words into my mouth.

4) I don't have a massive ego. I am trying to debate with people I see as equals.

Janpt Tue 27-Oct-20 10:19:48

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