New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

No. I’ll always be a remainer !

These figures took less than a minute to find, regarding UK financial services GDP

Nezumi65

I don’t have faux outrage about the deal. I just can’t understand why services (which produce 80% of our GDP blah blah blah) hasn’t been negotiated yet.

Because the EU have all the cards and is a powerful negotiator.

GrannyGravy13

These figures took less than a minute to find, regarding UK financial services GDP

That’s not GDP

The brilliant thing about being out of the EU is that Boris, Sunak, Gove et al plan to introduce innovative ways of doing business, levelling up (they want to keep the that Red Wall not hand it back to Starmer in 3 years!).

If we just carried on as before what would be the point of Brexit?

We are about to embrace change. That’s the whole point of it all!

Here’s the services contribution to GDP

“It is the Financial Services share of UK total economic output” Source statistica 2020

You seem to be arguing against something I haven’t said.

If you are referring to me Nezumi65 I have only posted my source of information, no argument?

Urmstongran

The brilliant thing about being out of the EU is that Boris, Sunak, Gove et al plan to introduce innovative ways of doing business, levelling up (they want to keep the that Red Wall not hand it back to Starmer in 3 years!).

If we just carried on as before what would be the point of Brexit?

We are about to embrace change. That’s the whole point of it all!

I am totally unclear why levelling up could not be done pre-Brexit.

Barely a deal Terrible for fisherfolk and seed tattie farmers

My concern about the red wall is if he tries to keep the votes by flag waving rather than investment in poor communities.

We’ll see.

Lucca

No. I’ll always be a remainer !

Rejoiners now, Lucca

Lucca

EU fans “squeaking “. “Crowing”. And “parroting “. Apparently....

banging about - keep the list going.

It is bullying language, used by certain people instead of putting up a good argument. By internet posses and bully gangs. On a Grans Forum, it really should not have place.

There has never been a group of posters more ganged upon than those who admitted to voting to leave the EU or the worse sin ever on the political threads - to have voted Conservative!!!!

Anyone doubting the above should perhaps read again some of the past ^Brexit Threads-

BREAKING NEWS:
Just confirmed in the Indy -
EU signs off the Brexit deal.
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All this arguing is pointless, we’ve left!
It just seems like hardcore remainers want to keep the arguments going with leavers - they won’t be satisfied until every leave voter whacks themselves on the bottom with a great big stick ( a’la Basil Fawlty ) for being so silly & reckless.

Just give up fgs, it’s over, it’s done.
Yes I know some MP’s have moaned about the EU for decades, but you never had intense discussions about it on Internet forums, never.
You will clearly never be happy until we’ve rejoined, so start a ‘rejoin’ party!
Nigel Farage & UKIP were the reason we left the EU, and like it or not, Farage was ( is ) very charismatic - people warmed to his ‘say it as it is’ personality & agreed with him.

You need a strong ‘personality’ and really good arguments for rejoining ( not that we will for years - if ever )

GrannyGravy13

There has never been a group of posters more ganged upon than those who admitted to voting to leave the EU or the worse sin ever on the political threads - to have voted Conservative!!!!

Anyone doubting the above should perhaps read again some of the past ^Brexit Threads-

Wrong sorry, that’s just the usual whinge from Tory voters when questioned.
Everyone is welcome to vote how they like express their views etc
I like to read these threads and am always impressed by the knowledge displayed but admit to getting a tad irritated by “sound bites”
I was merely amused by the bird imagery in lemongrove ‘s post.

All this arguing is pointless, we’ve left!

What arguing, Kandinsky? We're trying to discuss the Trading Partnership deal.

^ Farage was ( is ) very charismatic - people warmed to his ‘say it as it is’ personality & agreed with him.^

Such a shame that it was nothing but a load of racism and whopping great lies.

There are many things in history that are “over” and “done” but continue to merit discussion surely ?

Lucca constantly being asked to explain ones vote, day in and day out by the same individuals could definitely be described as bullying but I for one just ignore it as do many other posters who voted leave.

Kandonsky fortunately you dont have the power to tell people what they can talk about.

I for one.....ok. Heat and kitchen spring to mind.

That is good news Urmstongran

GrannyGravy13

Lucca constantly being asked to explain ones vote, day in and day out by the same individuals could definitely be described as bullying but I for one just ignore it as do many other posters who voted leave.

Thing is you are asked but don’t explain ! Apart from Take Back Control !
Anyway the suns out now so have a good day,