Prince Philip has died

Well said Luca and Algerias

Puzzler61

Harry is doing the right thing and I hope it is the start of a reconciliation between him and his close family (father and brother particularly).

What a really lovely post.

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Alegrias you didn’t understand what I was trying to say, I quoted the media with their constant reports on one family member, the cameras will zoom in on him which is why I said
I wish the funeral was not televised.

Do not lecture me on having respect , look to yourself .

The fact that tv coverage was on two channels out of - how many? I felt was the organisation paying its respect as was my local radio station.
A personable man who not only helped raise the profile of charities, but also quietly supported other charities & education out of the limelight.

DM remembers seeing him regularly in Norwich & once remembers him talking to my DD when she had gone to stay with her.

I understood fine Annie. You talk about what's in the media. Which means you were looking at it. I mentioned to DH yesterday how much people dislike H&M and he said "do they? I didn't know that". I said he's coming back for the funeral. DH said, "well of course, its his grandfather".

If you're not looking for this stuff you won't find it and they'll stop publishing it.

I'm doing fine on the respect front, thanks.

Sorry Ro60 for overtaking the discussion, you want to talk about Phillip - which is what this thread is about

No problem Alegrias1 - had just read & enjoyed your comments ?

This thread, whilst not exactly a thread for condolences but providing an opportunity for comments about the death of Prince Philip, was jarred by posters expressing their disgust, on occasion coarsely, that the main television channels had been suspended for that afternoon and evening. The BBC announced it was out of respect.
The coverage revealed a great deal about Prince Philip which I certainly was not aware of, in particular his tireless work over seventy years supporting foundations, organisations and charities, much of it behind the scenes without media coverage. It also put his life in an historical perspective. I think displacing a few television programmes, to be presented later, was worth it.

Puzzler61

Harry is doing the right thing and I hope it is the start of a reconciliation between him and his close family (father and brother particularly).

Puzzler the thought did cross my mind yesterday that perhaps, as Prince Philip was so ill, he may have been shielded from some of what has happened with Meghan and Harry recently, in particular the Oprah interview.

I do hope so, but I rather rather doubt it because, ill as he was, he may still have been very aware of events or at least, wanted to be told.

Alegrias I switched on the news this morning, how is that looking for this stuff ? Yes I was angry that they were harping on about it and I posted saying I wish the funeral was not televised . I assume ‘the news’ is something you don’t listen to.

I think displacing a few television programmes, to be presented later, was worth it.

Yes, it was - and there are other dozens of other channels.

I read and listen to proper news and analysis Annie, and I can tell the difference between news and prurient speculation.

Last word from me on this. Back to the DoE.

eazybee

This thread, whilst not exactly a thread for condolences but providing an opportunity for comments about the death of Prince Philip, was jarred by posters expressing their disgust, on occasion coarsely, that the main television channels had been suspended for that afternoon and evening. The BBC announced it was out of respect.
The coverage revealed a great deal about Prince Philip which I certainly was not aware of, in particular his tireless work over seventy years supporting foundations, organisations and charities, much of it behind the scenes without media coverage. It also put his life in an historical perspective. I think displacing a few television programmes, to be presented later, was worth it.

You don’t need more than one BBC channel to be providing this information and neither do you need to close down another. Neither do posters need to respond unnecessarily patronisingly to those who held this point of view. We’r3 not N.Korea and the BBC shouldn’t have behaved as though we were. I’m almost tempted to roll out the old chestnut of ‘wasn’t it our freedom to watch whatever rubbish we want when we want’ that people like PP fought for in WW2?

Sorry for the long post.
It was interesting to learn about all the things Prince Philip was involved in or knowledgeable about. I never realised how much else he did, besides supporting the Queen. Lots of things which he didn’t have to do. I was upset to hear he had died, and really upset for the Queen and his family.
He was the same generation as my father and he did things which are seen as reprehensible now e.g. shooting wild animals. My father did not. Not because he was ‘better’ than HRH, but because we didn’t have the money.
We can’t guarantee that anyone of his generation could truthfully say they wouldn’t have done it if they had had the money or status.
Racial slurs have been around a long time. I’m not excusing HRH, but I can’t guarantee my father never used insulting words in casual conversation, but fortunately, he was not a person of interest to the press.
Values change. My Grandma had a fur coat, now we are appalled by that now.
Most people still aspire to have a car or fly off on holiday, even though we have learned they are bad for the environment. Most of us are grateful we are not important enough to have all our errors broadcast to the world.
How amazing that Shakespeare, even without the benefit of the internet knew that
‘The evil that men do lives after them; the good is of interrèd with their bones.’
I think the good things are worth remembering without dragging up anything that was offensive and well publicised at the time.

Anniebach

Alegrias I switched on the news this morning, how is that looking for this stuff ? Yes I was angry that they were harping on about it and I posted saying I wish the funeral was not televised . I assume ‘the news’ is something you don’t listen to.

I can be absolutely sure that the vast majority of posters who wanted no more than pay their respects to a man who as a public servant lived a long and good life.

No one wants the ugly criticism to rear its head on this thread of all threads. We’ve had to tolerate thread after hateful thread year after year filled with bile, racism and hate filled posts, directed at one of the Queens relatives.

Is it too much to ask to give it a rest? How can people be so un- self aware?

Callistemon

^I think displacing a few television programmes, to be presented later, was worth it.^

Yes, it was - and there are other dozens of other channels.

But not showing the programmes people wanted to watch.
You think it was worth it. Many didn't, as demonstrated by the number of complaints.

But my TV has an off button!
I chose one like that because I don't like soaps.

Molly for some of us, the issue isn’t about content but blanket coverage. If one BBC channel wants to do 24/7 coverage of his life, why not? It was the OTT issue that was tge problem and no one has come up with a justification for such totalitarian behaviour

Callistemon

But my TV has an off button!
I chose one like that because I don't like soaps.

Spectacularly missing the point

Mollygo good post.

People seem to have overlooked the fact that, although Prince Philip did once shoot a tiger at a time when this was considered acceptable by many, he helped to found the WWF, was President of WWF-UK from 1961 and WWF President from 1981 to 1996. He was inspired by Sir Peter Scott, apparently.

Anniebach:
I do agree with you about the media coverage that will happen on the day of the funeral etc, There have already been remarks made about Harry and William walking behind the land rover carrying the coffin and remarks made about how they done the same thing for their late mother Lady Diana (may she R.I.P)
My only thoughts will be for the Queen on the day and hoping she is bearing up to life without Prince Philip I do not care what comments media want to make and we know they will try to stir things up who damn well cares.
It is not a day for prince Harry he has to attend mainly as he is a grand-son.

I think the extensive tv coverage of Philip has been enlightening for many of us, especially younger people who had no idea of his naval background or what a dreadful childhood he had. We

In view of the arrangements that have been put in place is it really expected of the public to " keep away " because of the spread of the pandemic ?
Can't the media, for once, keep their distance ? It's encouraging the public to be out in force with no thought for distancing and before we know it, a third wave will be in progress.

We are not North Korea, neither did the BBC behave as though we are.
Totalitarian behaviour. Really?

3nznny6 thank you