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Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings

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Iam64 Fri 23-Apr-21 18:55:04

Demonic has suggested that Mr Johnson has been not entirely honest about his communications with James Dyson.

I recognise many people believe Mr J was ‘doing his best for the country in a pandemic’ when he offered to sort the tax for Mr Dyson. But, do we want ethical government or not?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Apr-21 09:54:11

And of course the media support, for the nodding donkeys.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Apr-21 09:57:45

There are some Tories who recognise this government for what it is

Sir Dominic Grieve, former Conservative Attorney General says “Boris Johnson is a vacuum of integrity” running “a cronyistic cabal” and “chaotic government” for “self-enrichment”.

lemongrove Sat 24-Apr-21 09:59:32

Alegrias1

^?Well, whitewave they have been in power for a very long time now, where is this downfall that you speak of?^

It's in Scotland, where we know a bunch of chancers when we see them. They haven't been in power here since the 1950s.

And don't tell me how well Baroness Davidson did - she didn't do as well as Thatcher did for the Tories in Scotland, that's hardly a ringing endorsement.

Sorry, can't help myself wink

I have no intention of speaking of Davidson or even Scotland,
Tories have never done well in Scotland in my lifetime, but they still share the same Westminster government as the rest of the UK... so, that being the case, they are in power.
Bunch of chancers or not.?

lemongrove Sat 24-Apr-21 10:01:04

Dominic Grieve is well named...permanently aggrieved because of his hatred for Brexit and constant whining.

Jane43 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:01:14

GrannyGravy13

The most terrifying thing is that Mr.Gove has been extremely quiet...

My thoughts exactly! He probably has a spring in his step and a glint in his eye, he has played the long game since the leadership election, Machiavelli has nothing on him.

lemongrove Sat 24-Apr-21 10:05:28

Gove would have made a far better PM than Johnson, but would have lost the last GE or have won by a far less majority and just isn’t popular enough ( with anybody).
He could still be someone to watch though!

eazybee Sat 24-Apr-21 10:06:19

Yes, GrannyGravy!
It has been obvious for some time even in the Tory press that someone is briefing against Boris Johnson, using Carrie Symonds as a means of attack.
Gove has been dangerously quiet. My money is on Gove.

MaizieD Sat 24-Apr-21 10:10:56

For Gove to become PM he would have to be elected as leader of the tory party. That this would be automatic is open to doubt. It might be one of the current Cabinet non-entities. I wonder if Priti Patel might be the chosen one. Her particular brand of nastiness seems to go down well with tories.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:11:19

My money is on Murdoch and the nodding donkeys.

MaizieD Sat 24-Apr-21 10:14:07

Whitewavemark2

My money is on Murdoch and the nodding donkeys.

To do what?

Gove is not a shoe-in. He has to be elected leader. The noddies don't have a great deal of influence there, do they? It's the tory party members who vote for the new leader.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:17:15

If there is to be a new leader of the Conservative Party Rishi Sunak could be in with a shot!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:18:55

Murdock supports Gove. He has a lot of influence, look how many times Johnson has met him. So I’m sure that his influence will be a factor, particularly when it come to the noddies in the shires.

suziewoozie Sat 24-Apr-21 10:20:52

Johnson ain’t going anywhere . I’m surprised anyone thinks he might be - honestly I am.

MayBee70 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:26:56

lemongrove

Gove would have made a far better PM than Johnson, but would have lost the last GE or have won by a far less majority and just isn’t popular enough ( with anybody).
He could still be someone to watch though!

Believe me, I’m watching him!!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:27:06

suziewoozie

Johnson ain’t going anywhere . I’m surprised anyone thinks he might be - honestly I am.

Frankly I don’t care except that the U.K. deserves something better.

Look how embarrassing the climate summit was. I made me squirm. What other leaders thought heaven alone knows.

suziewoozie Sat 24-Apr-21 10:29:06

Well I care that we’re stuck with him. Good job I don’t do patriotism otherwise I’d be ashamed of my country.

MayBee70 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:35:36

I haven’t actually heard what he said at the climate summit. Did he really talk about bunny hugging?

suziewoozie Sat 24-Apr-21 10:37:28

MayBee70

I haven’t actually heard what he said at the climate summit. Did he really talk about bunny hugging?

Oh yes - I also think the phrase politically correct might have been use ?

suziewoozie Sat 24-Apr-21 10:42:20

Here’s the clip

youtu.be/j76bLc4jMP4

PippaZ Sat 24-Apr-21 10:44:05

vampirequeen

I'm looking forward to this. Cummings will know where all the bodies are buried whilst the Whips only know about some of them. There must be some very worried Ministers and MPs at the moment grin

You have to hope the committee asks the right questions. Hopefully there is time for a few "chatty rats" to get in touch with them.

PippaZ Sat 24-Apr-21 10:45:26

Whitewavemark2

Love this comment on twitter

“If you are going to employ a dead cat strategy, you should ensure that the cat is dead and not armed”

It shows just how stupid Johnson is.

Someone else commented that No 10 is beginning to look like Trump’s White House.

gringringrin

Alegrias1 Sat 24-Apr-21 10:47:57

You can almost see the cogs working in his brain. There was an interview on the TV after the DoE died where he referred to some environmentalists as bunny huggers. So Johnson obviously heard that and thought it was a nice phrase. confused. Greta Thunberg has changed her twitter bio to describe herself as a bunny hugger. Imagine someone who is praised as one of the best debaters of his cohort being shown up by an 18 year old.

PippaZ Sat 24-Apr-21 11:00:27

He may not go suziewoozie but then given enough rope - and he has certainly taken as much rope as he can - he just could and, for the sake of the country, we have to live in hope.

One thing is obvious, the international tide is turning. Trump has left and other than PTSD for his "fellow Americans it is quickly feeling as if it was all a bad dream and now the US has woken up. Trends that affect America usually end up affecting us too.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 24-Apr-21 11:05:35

It’s funny how people are now willing to belong Dominic Cummings, when this time last year he was accused of being a liar?

Alegrias1 Sat 24-Apr-21 11:08:17

I don't believe either of them. Its not Cummings' pronouncements that make me think Johnston is a lying scumbag with no morals.

A plague on both their houses.