Covid vaccinations to be made compulsory for care home staff

Talullah you seem to have a bit of an obsession with lizards, are you ok

Biscuitmuncher

Teacheranne if they've had their vaccine then they're protected

but in the general population in approx 5-10% of recipients, a vaccine will not be effective.
this is true of all vaccines, hence it is important that everyone who can, is vaccinated.
among the frail, ill, or disabled, the effectiveness is likely to be lower, due to impaired immune system.

Biscuitmuncher

Talullah you seem to have a bit of an obsession with lizards, are you ok

Some of us find certain comments remind us of David Icke…..

So if you have a distrust of a brand new vaccine you're a nutter then? I'm sure thalidomide was tested, that didn't work out too well either

Biscuitmuncher

Talullah you seem to have a bit of an obsession with lizards, are you ok

You're the one who's behaving like a frightened rabbit and you seem to want other people to join you. Goodness knows why - maybe you hope it will make you feel better about your own irrational fears.

Biscuitmuncher

So if you have a distrust of a brand new vaccine you're a nutter then? I'm sure thalidomide was tested, that didn't work out too well either

Now you're being silly. How about doing some research? This isn't a brand new vaccine.

I lost a good friend to covid only a few weeks ago, I have friends who caught covid in the first wave who still cannot get out of bed due to long covid, one of them is only in her 30s. Its not just the death rate you have to worry about with this, long covid is crippling a lot of previously healthy young people.

I'm seriously needle phobic, I almost put someone through a wall when he tried to give me a local anaesthetic, but I still turned up and had both my jabs.

Biscuitmuncher

Hows it all working out for you all , blindly doing as your told

Do you drive over the speed limit ? Do you have fry ups every morning and fizzy drinks morning noon and night ? Do you throw litter On the streets ? Do you take drugs,? No? So blindly doing what you’re told!

So what exactly are you suggesting? Not a thing I suspect.

As for not knowing a single person who has been ill from Covid, that is just plain bonkers. I know five people.

This attitude makes me so cross. People like you are contributing to prolonging the Covid crisis and stopping me for example from seeing my family abroad.

Biscuitmuncher, if your only argument is thalidomide, which was not a vaccine and happened over 50 years ago, then you are scraping the barrel in looking for arguments to back your very weak argument.

In this household, far from blindly following anything, we have followed the science and read some of the papers published. As have other people I know.

What I am waiting for is for those who oppose the vaccine to cite the research undertaken and papers published to back their arguments

By the way, as I am sure you knew, because I know you follow the science carefully, the problem with thalidomide was that the drug had not been properly tested and the manufacturer fabricated some of the results.

I can accept that there could be problems with the vaccine, but no one has yet brought forward any evidence to show that and neither have you. Just declarations without support.

I could say that people have developed wings and fins after the vaccine, but until I can put forward the evidence, to prove it, my declaration has no more credence than those who still beleive the earthe is flat.

Surely one of the most convincing arguments against it being a conspiracy regarding the vaccines must be, when have all the world's governments ever co-operated before on anything? Russia, China, USA and Europe all agreeing. Hasn't happened before, doubt it will be frequent in the future. And really, what would be the point in the economic, social and health consequences of effectively shutting down the world for months and months?
The speed of rolling out these vaccines has nothing to do with less effective controls and testing and everything to do with the unprecedented amounts of money thrown at it, plus the inordinate numbers of willing volunteers for the trials. No research scientist had to go out with the begging bowl this time.

“ The speed of rolling out these vaccines has nothing to do with less effective controls and testing and everything to do with the unprecedented amounts of money thrown at it, plus the inordinate numbers of willing volunteers for the trials. No research scientist had to go out with the begging bowl this time.”

Exactly.

Lucca Growstuff TeacherAnne

Growstuff Agenda 21 is real, it's not my words - Google it and educate yourself a bit.

Lucca My immune system works wonderfully well, has done for all these years. The recovery rate from Covid is 99%. Of the 127,000 people who died (the actual figure is lower and the government already admitted it a couple of months ago), the average age was 82.5, but all those people died WITH Covid, had tested positive in the prior 28 days. People who had had heart attacks, strokes, cancer, etc., were included in the Covid figures. FACT, not my words.
TeacherAnne I am talking about community care (people in their own homes) and hospitals where the staff is wearing all that gear. I KNOW because I did the job until last September, and I visited my relative only on Monday.

Hear, hear Monica. Pink cakes let us know what it's like down the rabbit hole. You are clearly deluded.

Biscuitmuncher

I am far more concerned about what's happening to us as a people, how we've all fallen for the fear and what weve been told. Where does it end, hairdressers sacked for not having it? Visitors to care homes not let in if they're not tested? The amount of people I know who've been ill from the vaccine, and I don't know a single person who's been seriously ill from covid

Just how ill have all these people you know been due to the vaccine?
Have they been hospitalised?

We have had at least one poster banned for promoting 'fake news'

PinkCakes

Lucca Growstuff TeacherAnne

Growstuff Agenda 21 is real, it's not my words - Google it and educate yourself a bit.

Lucca My immune system works wonderfully well, has done for all these years. The recovery rate from Covid is 99%. Of the 127,000 people who died (the actual figure is lower and the government already admitted it a couple of months ago), the average age was 82.5, but all those people died WITH Covid, had tested positive in the prior 28 days. People who had had heart attacks, strokes, cancer, etc., were included in the Covid figures. FACT, not my words.
TeacherAnne I am talking about community care (people in their own homes) and hospitals where the staff is wearing all that gear. I KNOW because I did the job until last September, and I visited my relative only on Monday.

The figures given in the post would suggest that between 0.006% and 0.1% of people who get Covid-19 die, but this cannot be true.

Looking at England and Wales, provisional figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show 53,675 deaths registered in 2020 had Covid-19 listed as the underlying cause on the death certificate, as of 6 November.

The current population estimate for England and Wales is 59.4 million, meaning that 0.09% of the total population has already died of Covid-19.

That means the fatality rate in England and Wales cannot be lower than this, even if every person in the country had already been infected.

Of course it’s not plausible that everyone in the country has already been infected, which means that the true death rate is significantly higher than this. Scientists estimated that, until the end of June, the actual fatality rate in England was about 0.9%. That’s significantly more deadly than the post suggests.

Some people on here really need to stop watching the news on tv, stop reading the papers, and actually realise what's happening. Sadly, most of you are indoctrinated and it's too late for you

I think you'll find Lucca, that all your arguments are invalidated when someone writes FACT in capitals after their made-up assertions.

PinkCakes

Some people on here really need to stop watching the news on tv, stop reading the papers, and actually realise what's happening. Sadly, most of you are indoctrinated and it's too late for you

What's going to happen PinkCakes? Are we all going to be controlled by Bill Gates' chip? Are we all going to morph into lizards? Are we all going to be turned into drones doing the bidding of our evil overlords?

Get a grip.

Tell me, how do we find out what's going on, telepathy? Or watching YouTube videos by paranoid extremists?

PinkCakes where do you get your news and current affairs information from? What do you suggest that we read and watch?
Thank you

Lucca I said seriously ill

Biscuitmuncher can you answer my question posted at 8.49 please?
Thank you

My husband was seriously ill following his first vaccine;
in fact we both thought that he would have to be hospitalised again (he had been hospitalised previously with Covid and pneumonia).

The symptoms from the vaccine are proof that your immune system is working correctly. Your antibodies are up and at 'em.

Biscuitmuncher

Lucca I said seriously ill

Was that your reply to me?

PinkCakes

Some people on here really need to stop watching the news on tv, stop reading the papers, and actually realise what's happening. Sadly, most of you are indoctrinated and it's too late for you

Ok so you tell us what’s happening and how you know if you don’t watch the news or read the newspapers.? I look forward to a full detailed reply with sources, thanks.

If you come in here simply to really annoy people then well done, you have succeeded.

What’s that quote ? “ there’s no cure for…?”