Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

Which is why I tend to watch live interviews wherever possible.

Me too. Too often I've watched a live discussion and then heard it reported afterwards and thought that's not what s/he said

I complained to the STV news about the way they were presenting the data. They've changed.

So, if all GB’s problems are due solely to the pandemic, why haven’t we got the same problems here in France? No bare shelves in supermarkets, we did have a shortage of mainly summer fruit due to the awful spring we had. No problems with gas either but that could be as its partially state owned!
The vaccine roll out was slow to start with but now 82% of people are fully vaccinated. That includes children 12-15. My aged parents have also had their booster vaccines.
There’s no problem getting blood tests and you can see a doctor face to face every time.
So ask yourselves why is it so different in France?

Why haven't we got the same problems anywhere in Europe?

A bit of perspective here re UK and US

''Boris has no clue how far in the back of the queue he and Brexit placed Britain.
U.S. goods and services trade with the EU 27 totaled an estimated $1.1 trillion in 2019. Exports were $468 billion; imports were $598 billion.
Britain totalled £132 billion. Exports were £69 billion and imports £63 billion.''

So NO, we do NOT hold all the cards, at all.

GrannyGravy13

theworriedwell we will never know what the situation here in the U.K. would have been without the emergence of a Global Pandemic.

You are allowing the Johnson propaganda to cloud your judgement.

Why have we only got 2-3 days supply of gas whereas Germany has 90 days supply in storage? Reason - Tory government allowed the private companies to get rid of gas storage to save money and increase their profits. Also Norway is a member of the European energy group but not an EU member so we could join that and be assured of supply if there was low capacity at any time. We get gas supply from Norway, but it will supply other IEG members (ie EU members) before supplying. third country (eg UK). We aren't joining it because of ideological /political reasons.

The biggest % of our gas comes from Russia.

Not that I don’t, agree with you cool.

But I do think we stand a better chance if we were acting normally of increased gas supply from Europe than we ever would from Russia.

Lord Frost, as the Head of the Whisky distillers assoc. was of course a total Remainer and advocated the huge advantages of being part of the EU and the Single Market.

Sue Wilson, chair of Bremain in Spain, has written to David Frost ‘You may think the British public are too stupid to grasp that the ‘unworkable’ deal you despise now is, in fact, the same amazing deal you previously touted.’

Whitewavemark2

The biggest % of our gas comes from Russia.

Are you sure? In the stats I saw, Norway was our biggest supplier.

I think you're right growstuff.

I thought Norway was the biggest supplier of CO2. I’m use getting confused about just how many things this country is short of. The main one, imo, being a competent government….

Where does the UK get its gas imports?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58637094

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

The biggest % of our gas comes from Russia.

Are you sure? In the stats I saw, Norway was our biggest supplier.

I understand 42% Norway

47% Russia?

The trouble is I can’t remember where from. Bum.

Just looking at your link growstuff blimey my memory must be caving in!!

GrannyGravy13

theworriedwell we will never know what the situation here in the U.K. would have been without the emergence of a Global Pandemic.

Which is why it is such a wonderful excuse for Johnson.

Urmstongran

^I am trying to decide who angers me more, the liar in chief or the fools who thought it worth having him in charge in order to achieve the economic, social and political disaster that is Brexit.^

Aw go on - hate away Gill57. I have broad shoulders....
Yes, I thought it worth voting for Boris. He promised to Get Brexit Done. No-one else was offering.

Urmstongran Are you pleased with how Boris is performing?
How do you think things are going now Brexit has happened? Do you think that Brexit is done or that we are just at the beginning of making a new world now Brexit has happened?

lemongrove

GillT57

Well, as one of the many on here who was told that I had lost, get over it, was told to be positive, told to wait, told I was unpatriotic etc., etc., I am still fizzing with anger at the mess we are finding this country in. Covid19 has been a convenient cover for the disaster that is Brexit, and it is becoming apparent by the booming silence from the previously vociferous Brexit camp.

We are just bored to tears with the constant whinging, that’s why the ‘Brexit camp’ are quiet Gill. Very few can be bothered with it.
It’s five years since the referendum, most people have moved on regardless of how they voted.

Such a shame that people who made such a fuss and upended the table with no clear plan ahead have turned out to have such a short attention span. Like a child tiring of a puzzle when it becomes too difficult for them.

The Brexit camp is quiet because there is nothing they can say or defend!

I’m still a happy bunny about Brexit. My life hasn’t changed dramatically but I see changes that I like creeping into the UK system. More job vacancies, better rates of pay on offer.

The Brexit argument gets tedious though. With all due respect it’s been 5 years now. Like a game of debating ping-pong.

We were part of the EU for 45 years (I think?). We’ve been out for erm ... 9 months? It’s early days folks. And the sky hasn’t fallen in Henny Penny!

Urmonstongran. Still whistling in the dark eh? Oh and by the way, I don't hate you as you misquoted, I am angry at the mess you and others have landed my family with. Remember, tackle the ball, not the player.

Urmstongran

I’m still a happy bunny about Brexit. My life hasn’t changed dramatically but I see changes that I like creeping into the UK system. More job vacancies, better rates of pay on offer.

The Brexit argument gets tedious though. With all due respect it’s been 5 years now. Like a game of debating ping-pong.

We were part of the EU for 45 years (I think?). We’ve been out for erm ... 9 months? It’s early days folks. And the sky hasn’t fallen in Henny Penny!

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Are you also a happy bunny about the negative impact on the fishing and farming industries? The shortage of lorry drivers/ care workers/ hospitality workers? Price rises and shortages? The red tape and bureaucracy for businesses meaning many have gone out of business or have shifted to the EU? The sheer cost of the whole exercise - double the cost of being a member and counting?

Petrol now. Went to get petrol yesterday and Tesco was all taped off.

Huge queue in Sainsbury’s so didn’t have time as meeting friend. Must get some today or will be stuck.

Actually I expect that it is all in Essex.