A question

It’s Brexit repeating itself.

They have no answers because the know deep down they’ve been taken for fools.

There are other parties that can be voted for,but imo they are all corrupt in some way shape or form.
Affairs have been rife in governments for years.
Hypocricy at it`s best in all aspects.

Surely that question applies to any political party. Tories do not have a monoply on those “qualities”

timetogo2016

There are other parties that can be voted for,but imo they are all corrupt in some way shape or form.
Affairs have been rife in governments for years.
Hypocricy at it`s best in all aspects.

To paraphrase Mr Orwell:

Some are more corrupt than others.....

Nobody really cares about the blooming affair. COVID rules and lack of honesty with public money is what we're worried about.

Going "yah boo sucks your guy did it too" is no defence.

The point being that this is The Government we are talking about.

They have behaved appallingly. I would bet if the boot was on the other foot, ie, we had a Labour government, or any other come to that, we’d be seeing exactly the same thing.
They’re all liars. It’s a necessary requirement for the job!

DiscoDancer1975

They have behaved appallingly. I would bet if the boot was on the other foot, ie, we had a Labour government, or any other come to that, we’d be seeing exactly the same thing.
They’re all liars. It’s a necessary requirement for the job!

That’s an interesting remark.

Perhaps you could provide a list from the last Labour government so that we can verify that opinion?

Personally I don't care as long as they stay in control.

I think you will only preach to the converted on this thread WW

Surely that question applies to any political party. Tories do not have a monoply on those “qualities

But they do at the monument spice is that a half hearted
defence ?

Nobody really cares about the blooming affair. COVID rules and lack of honesty with public money is what we're worried about.

Exactly.
Do tory voters really still support these people whose efforts, during this massive worldwide emergency, have been towards furthering their own (and pals') interests, rather than the UK population's interests?

Or, if I've got it wrong, can they explain why I am wrong?

P.s. Comments such as "I like Boris, he cheers me up." won't cut it.

Affairs have been rife in governments for years.

There was no mention of 'affairs' in the OP.

Surely that question applies to any political party. Tories do not have a monoply on those “qualities”

So you're perfectly comfortable those 'qualities', Spice101?

It's absolutely fine that this is the most overtly corrupt government in our lifetimes because 'everybody does it'?

‘At the moment’ not monument sorry

Its an interesting phenomenon that even when somebody admits that the Tories have acted despicably, its very often followed by the other lot are just as bad. As though it was no more than we could expect. I do think that maybe many people just don't care and can't see what impact all this has on their day to day lives?

minimo15

Personally I don't care as long as they stay in control.

Interesting.
Why do you feel it's so important for people who do all those bad things, to be in control of the UK?

minimo15

Personally I don't care as long as they stay in control.

Not much evidence of Hancock being in control of some of his baser instincts in that picture.....

However, this post is why people keep voting Tory.

Ooops, many similar posts .

minimo15

Personally I don't care as long as they stay in control.

Why?

What have they done for the UK and its citizens that is so overwhelmingly good that you are prepared to tolerate traits that you wouldn't wish your friends and family to have (or perhaps you'd be cool about that, too?) ?

'Vaccines' and 'the Labour Party wouldn't have done any better' do not count as justifications..

Alegrias1 I have seen both in Government and know which I prefer!

I cannot agree Minimo, this ‘lot’ are truly beyond the pale and yes I’m afraid I did vote for them as I didn’t want Corbin.

Can’t believe what I am Reading. Minimo so you think Hancock’s actions are just fine ?

Lucca

Can’t believe what I am Reading. Minimo so you think Hancock’s actions are just fine ?

Please let's be clear, Lucca. Hancock's little affair is not among the traits listed by the OP. It would be sad if we were diverted by that, which is his own private affair, instead of looking at the corruption which pervades the whole government.

Of course, the unscrutinised appointment of his mistress to a post which pays £15,000 for 15 day's work a year (and is, apparently, a post which involves an independent oversight of his performance) and the awarding of numerous NHS contracts to the company her brother works for DO fall within the OP's list...

Whitewavemark2

Perhaps we ought to take it one at a time.

Let’s just try law-breaking.

Anyone like to defend that?

Not all laws are equal. That something is against the law does not automatically make it wrong. That something is wrong does not automatically make it illegal.

Just a general remark.

On the Hancock issue ?‍♀️Never liked him. Don't care what happens to him politically. Never liked lockdown, face covering, social distancing "laws" (weren't they always called guidance?). Not that I had to obey them anyway: Nicola made us a set of our own ?, some of which have been inhumane in my view.

Whitewavemark2

DiscoDancer1975

They have behaved appallingly. I would bet if the boot was on the other foot, ie, we had a Labour government, or any other come to that, we’d be seeing exactly the same thing.
They’re all liars. It’s a necessary requirement for the job!

That’s an interesting remark.

Perhaps you could provide a list from the last Labour government so that we can verify that opinion?

Are you saying the Labour government have never put a foot wrong? You surely know that’s not true! I’m not a Conservative voter....more dissatisfied with all of them. I’m just trying to point out they’re all massively flawed. The sun doesn’t shine out of any of them.

Not all laws are equal.

Animal Farm again.

Alegrias1

^Not all laws are equal.^

Animal Farm again.

Thou shalt not hug thy grandchildren.

Thou shalt not be allowed visits in a care home from your spouse of many years even when it's one of the few things that would get through your dementia-based confusion and make you happy in your last few months of life.