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GrannyGravy13

I had a post deleted and was reprimanded for using the phrase y***ow peril a couple of months ago, obviously it’s now an OK and acceptable description of China?

Interesting *Grannygravy

Yes, it is racist, I should not have quoted it.

French are just French as are the Spanish just Spanish, The Australians just Australians and the British just British, the citizens do not hate one and other however, it’s perfectly acceptable to dislike other Governments surely?

GrannyGravy13

I had a post deleted and was reprimanded for using the phrase y***ow peril a couple of months ago, obviously it’s now an OK and acceptable description of China?

Yeah, but I know its insulting. And know about its use in an academic sense. And am not actually using it to refer to the country, but to the irrational attitude to the country.

But if anyone wants to report me, I will join the ranks of the cancelled and consider myself a martyr.

I mean, I should not have quoted another poster's post

No, I won't , but if you want to report yourself, fine.

Eric Abetz - quoting him is rather like quoting Nigel Farage and saying he represents the UK!!

Alegrais, I think I would have understood better if you had put that in the first place. Thank you for clarifying. I agree that some of the views do seem to owe more to the playground the real understanding.

I will not report you Alegrias1 but using academia as an excuse is a new one on GN…

GrannyGravy13

I will not report you Alegrias1 but using academia as an excuse is a new one on GN…

www.academia.edu/45018812/Coronavirus_The_Yellow_Peril_Revisited

www.academia.edu/6010592/Yellow_Peril_An_Archive_of_Anti_Asian_Fear

study.com/academy/lesson/the-theory-of-yellow-peril.html

PippaZ

*Alegrais*, I think I would have understood better if you had put that in the first place. Thank you for clarifying. I agree that some of the views do seem to owe more to the playground the real understanding.

Cheers PippaZ ?, fair comment.

Hilarious ?, I couldn’t say that my Grandfather constantly feared what he referred to as the yp after his experiences of the war, but you can post links to Academic papers…

GrannyGravy13

Hilarious ?, I couldn’t say that my Grandfather constantly feared what he referred to as the yp after his experiences of the war, but you can post links to Academic papers…

erm....yes?

That's how it works. Complicated, isn't it?

Back to the OP, our family in Australia are becoming increasingly aware of the Chinese attitude to Australasia, in the eighties we were all jesting about the influx of Japanese along the Gold Coast.

China is more of a concern to them.

1WTWab12blow
A retired friend who served on nuclear subs that carried war heads alluded to the fact that it was French security.
That’s also the reason that no eu country is a member of 5 eyes.

It sounds like a whale

Australia has been a sitting target for years by China. When I lived there in 1974-5 there were no businesses etc owned by the Chinese. They weren’t even Chinese take aways!!!
Now the country has been ravaged by Chinese’s demands for natural resources: a lot of properties, hotels, businesses are owned by them. Australians have been cosy with them for many years but now they are worried. I wonder why???

The French will never be happy with England no matter what we do

So, Johnson's Global Britain is going to curb the power of China in the Pacific?
Meanwhile in the real world,
China is building our new nuclear power infrastructure as we no longer have the expertise,
China operates Crossrail in London and holds stakes in various other pieces of UK public transport infrastructure,
and has stakes in the National Grid, Heathrow Airport and privatised water suppliers,
It adds up to £44 billion worth of UK infrastructure,
Rishi Sunak recently announced his wonderful plan for foreign governments and businesses to buy up even more British companies.
Yes, let's annoy the Chinese. What could possibly go wrong?

EEJit

We're not proliferating nuclear weapons, the subs are nuclear powered and will carry non nuclear weapons.

Bears repeating EEjit ?
Some on here are getting confused.

This might make change of mind a bit clearer.
The French nuclear powered options required complex work midway through the life of the submarine, meaning it would have required a more advanced domestic nuclear industry
The game changer was the US and UK willingness to share their technology

I take that to mean that the French just weren’t up to the job.

katy1950

The French will never be happy with England no matter what we do

I think that works both ways for a proportion of both populations katy1950. Sadly governments find appealing to the lowest lowest common denominator makes life very easy for them.

Maremia
It’s got nothing to do with our expertise but everything to do with George Osborne selling our country to the Chinese.

GrannyGravy13

Hopefully it might make China think twice about world domination.

Can you find something that isn't wholly or partially made in China?

lemongrove

Not well put at all actually, it’s a nonsense.
We are not ‘playing soldiers’ but have agreed to come in on a deal together with the US when asked by Australia, for tech help for building nuclear subs for them.They feel intimidated by what the Chinese are doing in their part of the world, and if you don’t think that China is building up it’s military might at an alarming rate then you haven’t been following world events closely enough.They are going for gold with economic power too, but that can be countered as well, if the rest of the world resists their many shoddy goods and imposes sanctions where needed.
Were the French ‘playing soldiers’ with Australia with the deal they have just lost?

Well the French had a contract to build and supply the submarines - supporting their industry and technology. What the UK has is essentially permission from the USA to supply the US technology to Australia.

The USA of course supplies the technology to the UK - including the cheap and cheerful PWR2 reactor systems that were sold to Margaret Thatcher by Ronald Reagan,

Australia reneging on its contract is just copying the Boris Johnson approach.

MerylStreep

This might make change of mind a bit clearer.
The French nuclear powered options required complex work midway through the life of the submarine, meaning it would have required a more advanced domestic nuclear industry
The game changer was the US and UK willingness to share their technology

I take that to mean that the French just weren’t up to the job.

That seems to be the case. Hence the attempt to deflect the French population from something voters might blame the government for. It's sad. However, our government would and does do the same in those circumstances. They just find a Straw Man to blame and distract.