Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours

Lucca the only word used by Maudi is lol ....the word scum is Rayner’s.Plus Maudi is not on tv or in the HOC.

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

First person to spot the use of the phrase "undeserving poor" wins a coconut.

She’s from Stockport. Gtr. Manchester. Stockport: famous for Palma Violets and 10cc.
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My cousin attended Stockport grammar school. AR ‘s voice isn’t one I recognise from a Mancunian. I think she puts it on a bit. Appeals to the union barons I expect. And furthers the ‘you and me against the toffs’ narrative for the imagined flat caps and whippet owners north of Watford Gap.

Curlywhirly

I would far rather listen to Angela Rayner give a speech than listen to Boris's dreadful delivery - he can't string a sentence together without it being peppered with ums and ahs; he's not at all easy to listen to.

So would I. As for using unprofessional language, Rayner has some way to go before she challenges Johnson for that accolade.

17:13lemongrove

Lucca the only word used by Maudi is lol ....the word scum is Rayner’s.Plus Maudi is not on tv or in the HOC.

Thank you Lemongrove precisely.

Is Stockholm syndrome or just inverted snobbery?

'Lifestyle choices'? Do you think AR chose to be a child carer? I agree that she can be very emotional, but I don't have a problem with that, and I certainly don't think that having a BBC accent like Cameron makes you a decent or a particularly clever person, a fact we all now know. I think we have all become so accustomed to our politicians being white, middle class or upper class men in grey suits, that when somebody else bursts on the scene, all full of emotion, and heaven forfend, not only a woman, but a working class one, a Northerner, who has been on benefits and knows of which she speaks, then a lot of people are disturbed. Good. This country needs disturbing.

Have you read about her background Urmstongran? I found this old article of an interview with her in 2017, which gives much more insight.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/carer-mum-10-baby-16-14046653
She is an outstanding example of what somebody who comes from a very difficult background can do with her life. We all make mistakes, yes she had a baby at 16, but she has proved that success is possible whatever your start. She’s an excellent role model for young people from deprived backgrounds who want to go into politics, and we need more of them.

I find “lol” ridiculous from someone accusing others of being uncouth. It matters not that’s she is not on tv

Give over Urmstongran - she's got a real north-west (well I would say Lancashire) accent, not everyone from the Manchester area speaks like Liam Gallagher (a real Mancunian accent I think you would agree).

17:25Lucca

Lol ?

Hmm! I thought the usual criticism of Labour politicians is that they're all Oxbridge-educated Islington elites. Rayner certainly didn't sound like that.

Curlywhirly

Give over Urmstongran - she's got a real north-west (well I would say Lancashire) accent, not everyone from the Manchester area speaks like Liam Gallagher (a real Mancunian accent I think you would agree).

Stockport's in Cheshire.(Just saying.)

She sounds like a not too bright child and takes politics back 20 years to Brown’s obsession with left and right. No longer relevant in the modern world where a standard of living is more nuanced.

She’s spunky though and I quite like her passion.

Joan Bakewell comes from Stockport. I prefer the way she sounds to the way Angela Rayner sounds. Not everyone speaks with a local accent, wherever they come from.

Greater Manchester is made up of ten boroughs: Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan and the cities of Manchester and Salford.

Just saying.
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trisher

Let's only have posh MPs. They are so much better. (At everything including lining their pockets and the pockets of their mates

Morley, Onasanya, Vaz, Huhne, to name but a few from the Labour benches.

Alegrias1

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

First person to spot the use of the phrase "undeserving poor" wins a coconut.

I think it was Goebbels, in German though. I’ll need to check my reference books.

Definitely not uncouth, everything she said was true and needed to be said a lot of people will struggle this winter and Tories don't give a fig.

No matter her education, background, lack of polish, at least you know she is speaking from the heart.

Compare that to Johnson's speech - since when was he interested in the environment? You just know that he is playing to the current gallery - I can't imagine he would make such a speech if Trump were still president. A total pseud.

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Alegrias1

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

First person to spot the use of the phrase "undeserving poor" wins a coconut.

I think it was Goebbels, in German though. I’ll need to check my reference books.

The irony that my expletive could probably be classed as uncouth has not escaped me....

Urmstongran

Greater Manchester is made up of ten boroughs: Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan and the cities of Manchester and Salford.

Just saying.
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And there's a huge difference in the accents in the different boroughs. I think Rayner sounds less "northern" than she used to.

My daughter now lives in Stockport, having lived in Greater Manchester for the last nine years and she can tell the difference. I must admit that I can't, but I can tell the difference between various Merseyside accents.

Does it really matter? Would it have been different if Miliband, Benn or Cooper had said what she did?

Urmstongran

She sounds like a not too bright child and takes politics back 20 years to Brown’s obsession with left and right. No longer relevant in the modern world where a standard of living is more nuanced.

She’s spunky though and I quite like her passion.

There are many not too bright ex-children around - gone are the days when accents covered up lack of intelligence.

Angel Rayner..education

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Rayner

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Alegrias1

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

First person to spot the use of the phrase "undeserving poor" wins a coconut.

I think it was Goebbels, in German though. I’ll need to check my reference books.

I thought it was George Bernard Shaw.