Brexit finally being recognised as one of the causes of the crises

Sadly for you, TiggyW shutting out EU citizens will do nothing to affect our immigration figures. Mostly because we need immigrants because of our ageing population leading to fewer young people to fill our jobs.

Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC?

What horrible thing to say.

Guess who invaded their native countries over a couple of 100 years, exploited them to enrich themselves and the UK , imposed the 'British' way of life on them (calling it 'civilising' them) and told them they belonged to Britain?

And guess what, 'they' are nothing to do with the EU, either.

TiggyW Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC?

Dunno - Boris Johnson maybe?

Petera

TiggyW Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC?

Dunno - Boris Johnson maybe?

Please back up your statement. Does this include my Romanian friend who has a child born here and is a senior theatre practitioner with a Masters? Worked on the front line all through covid19?

Have you not been in an NHS hospital recently? Without immigrants the whole organisation would definitely collapse.

GillT57

Not everyone who voted to remain is a Labour voter, rabid or otherwise, many Tories also had the good sense to vote to remain, and many decent Tory MPs were hounded out of office because they went against the Johnson diktat, and there are Labour MPs like Kate Hoey who was a very vociferous Brexit supporter.

People seem to have forgotten that.
As well as forgetting other parties eg Lib Dems.

They have also forgotten that the Labour leader's messages were very lukewarm too so that those campaigning for leave persuaded traditional Labour voters to vote for Brexit.

CoolCoco

Have you not been in an NHS hospital recently? Without immigrants the whole organisation would definitely collapse.

Exactly. That was my previous point !

If you think Brexit has caused problems in GB it's nothing to the problems it's caused in N.ireland. For those of you who are ' bored with conversations about it count yourselves lucky as a lot of people in N.I. are seriously worried about the situation. The one political party here who supported Brexit now just blame the EU for an agreement which the British Government signed up to.

HannahLoisLuke

I’m old enough to remember life before we joined the blasted EU or EEC as it was then.
As I remember, life was pretty good. Most things we bought had Made in England stamped on them, Harold MacMillan told us we’d never had it so good, jobs were plentiful, we didn’t turn our noses up at what was on offer and people seemed happy on the whole.
Then came the 70s, we joined the EEC, we had the winter of discontent, who was in power then? Don’t need to remind anyone.
Enough said.

Labour during the winter of discontent. But what about the Three Day Week? Contrary to popular belief the govt at that time was Tory. People do conveniently forget that fact and conflate it with the Winter of Discontent.
My recollection was that life was pretty good for most of the period since we joined the EU, apart from the 2 above named events.
I also recollect the period of extremely high interest rates. Guess who was PM then? (MT)

TiggyW

We’ll said, HannahLoisLuke.?
I’m not sure about the connection between the EEC and the ‘Winter of Discontent’, but something had to be done about the volumes of people entering this small country. Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC? Have you tried to get a doctor’s appointment recently?!

But we need more youngsters to cope with our aging population and to work in order to pay for our pensions.

Dinahmo

TiggyW

We’ll said, HannahLoisLuke.?
I’m not sure about the connection between the EEC and the ‘Winter of Discontent’, but something had to be done about the volumes of people entering this small country. Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC? Have you tried to get a doctor’s appointment recently?!

But we need more youngsters to cope with our aging population and to work in order to pay for our pensions.

I get the feeling that 'more youngsters' would be OK if they weren't the wrong colour...

Petera

TiggyW Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC?

Dunno - Boris Johnson maybe?

You’ve got a point there….

U.K. was far more prosperous as an EU country than back in the 60s - weren’t we the “sick man of Europe”?

MaizieD

Sadly for you, TiggyW shutting out EU citizens will do nothing to affect our immigration figures. Mostly because we need immigrants because of our ageing population leading to fewer young people to fill our jobs.

Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC?

What horrible thing to say.

Guess who invaded their native countries over a couple of 100 years, exploited them to enrich themselves and the UK , imposed the 'British' way of life on them (calling it 'civilising' them) and told them they belonged to Britain?

And guess what, 'they' are nothing to do with the EU, either.

I completely agree MaizieD with your sentiments.

Guess who's responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC - Tiggyw - what a terrible racist comment.

Why are people being rude to Whitewavemark2 ? For example, "have you forgotten to take your medicine?" Some quite unkind people posting. You can put your point of view and Whitewavemark2 can do the same.

TiggyW

We’ll said, HannahLoisLuke.?
I’m not sure about the connection between the EEC and the ‘Winter of Discontent’, but something had to be done about the volumes of people entering this small country. Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC? Have you tried to get a doctor’s appointment recently?!

15% of NHS staff are of non British origin.

Who knows...some of those lovely, welcome, innocent babies might go on to be doctors...or the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Immigrants pay tax which funds the NHS.

Those words........'small island'..........you just know what is coming next.

Scones

Those words........'small island'..........you just know what is coming next.

Is that you Andrea? ?

Sadly not.

Alegrias1

Scones

Those words........'small island'..........you just know what is coming next.

Is that you Andrea? ?

Or it could be Bill Bryson and his notes.

Callistemon

Alegrias1

Scones

Those words........'small island'..........you just know what is coming next.

Is that you Andrea? ?

Or it could be Bill Bryson and his notes.

Oh, I think not. Bryson's notes are amusing...

MaizieD

Dinahmo

TiggyW

We’ll said, HannahLoisLuke.?
I’m not sure about the connection between the EEC and the ‘Winter of Discontent’, but something had to be done about the volumes of people entering this small country. Guess who’s responsible for 30% of recent births, according to the BBC? Have you tried to get a doctor’s appointment recently?!

But we need more youngsters to cope with our aging population and to work in order to pay for our pensions.

I get the feeling that 'more youngsters' would be OK if they weren't the wrong colour...

Ironically, the UK never lost the right to regulate the immigration of people of the "wrong colour".

I've been thinking more about the 'small island' thing.

People always use this wording when they're about to say something awful and potentially hugely racist.

Why is that? Are they all getting their prejudices from the same material? What is that material?

Oh, I think not. Bryson's notes are amusing...

I am forever the optimist
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Scones

I've been thinking more about the 'small island' thing.

People always use this wording when they're about to say something awful and potentially hugely racist.

Why is that? Are they all getting their prejudices from the same material? What is that material?

Or maybe they just look at the atlas and see how small an island we are.

sandwichgeneration

Why are people being rude to Whitewavemark2 ? For example, "have you forgotten to take your medicine?" Some quite unkind people posting. You can put your point of view and Whitewavemark2 can do the same.

?? I didn’t see that post. Tbh I don’t take any notice of personal comments, they are a waste of space and I rarely react to them. No point is there when you think about it?