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Eustice bans foreign mineral waters ...

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Kali2 Wed 27-Oct-21 10:50:07

to protect our own...

whilst they allow raw sewage to enter our waterways!!!

And then some here say that the EU is being petty. WTMF!

From 7 January, all those waters you know and love, Evian, San Pelegríno etc etc will be no more in the UK - Eustice has sent notification to this effect to the EU.

MayBeMaw Wed 27-Oct-21 22:09:27

I am not retired and have to take bottled water into work. The kitchen is filthy so I'd rather take my own = practical

JaneJudge why not take your own Chilly bottle of tap water?

Lincslass Wed 27-Oct-21 22:20:41

Kali2

Lincslass

Kali2

Do you think Eustice will ban Buxton and other UK waters... and their plastic bottles?

Why should he. Less bottles to recycle once imports are stopped.

The intention is for people to switch to UK bottled waters. How will that create less bottles?

Maw - massive, dear, massive!

Oh for goodness sake, the amount of French bottles plus ours, less French bottles, well less bottles. Why be so patronising.

Lincslass Wed 27-Oct-21 22:22:58

Kali2

Agreed- I have one special refill bottle. Easy enough.

However this was not the point of my post. But hey, ho - I am quite sure that people knowing how UK waters are being polluted with raw sewage will not be encouraged to switch to above. What do you think?

You do realise this has been happening for over 30 years, not good, but not a new thing.

Scones Wed 27-Oct-21 22:24:26

But surely the same amount of water will be drunk. Therefore same amount of bottles, just UK ones, not EU ones.

MayBeMaw Wed 27-Oct-21 22:31:20

Kali2 you still seem to labour under the misapprehension that we drink river water in the U.K.
Drinking water has been through more than adequate purification since its time at sewage works.
From the AWA GCSE Guide to potable water

Potable water in the UK

The methods used to make water potable depend on where you live. Starting with fresh water is easier than sea water, as removing the large amount of sodium chloride present in sea water requires a lot of energy

In the UK, rain provides enough fresh water to meet the needs of the population. Sometimes during the summer months in some areas of the UK, water reserves run low and people are encouraged to conserve tap water by the use of hosepipe bans.

Rainwater collects in rivers, lakes and in rocks underground. This water contains low levels of dissolved substances.

Most potable water in the UK is produced from naturally occurring fresh water by

passing the water through filter beds to remove insoluble particles
sterilising the water to kill microbes
The methods used for sterilisation include chlorine, ozone and ultraviolet light

Casdon Wed 27-Oct-21 22:41:55

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I’m so glad I live in Wales, sewage dumping is far less of an issue here - Welsh Water is not for profit and answers to Welsh Government. Not sure how it works for Scotland.

growstuff Wed 27-Oct-21 22:49:27

MayBeMaw

^I am not retired and have to take bottled water into work. The kitchen is filthy so I'd rather take my own = practical^

JaneJudge why not take your own Chilly bottle of tap water?

There is no way I'd drink the water which comes out of my tap without filtering it first. It contains sand, which the water board is doing nothing about.

Teacheranne Wed 27-Oct-21 22:53:07

Petera

MerylStreep

You claim to be an environmentalist. I would think that you might be pleased that these plastic bottles won’t be coming to the uk.
Personally I’m over the moon ??? ?

Quite right; much better to use our own plastic bottles for our own mineral water instead.

No Petera. Much better to drink tap water than buy any brand of bottled water.

Teacheranne Wed 27-Oct-21 22:59:21

Zoejory

Most youngsters today use Chilly bottles. All mine and their peers have them.

As for this hysteria about sewerage, do some research. The EU have rules but they're not kept. This article from 2 years ago.

www.euronews.com/green/2021/09/04/swimming-in-sewage-how-can-we-fix-europe-s-smelly-rivers

As for cruise liners, they dump all their raw sewerage into the sea.

Stop getting carried away with media reports

The Mediterranean is not much more than a huge toilet! I remember swimming off a flotilla sailing boat around the Greek Islands and having to get out whenever a posh gin palace went by emptying its raw sewage into the sea! We used to shout out “Poo Alert” so everyone around heard.

Deedaa Wed 27-Oct-21 23:19:48

I don't bother with bottled water unless it's sparkling, in which case I drink San Pellegrino. I'm already paying astronomical prices for the Italian rice that I prefer. If I can't buy San Pelly that will really put the tin lid on it.

MayBeMaw Wed 27-Oct-21 23:49:41

growstuff

MayBeMaw

I am not retired and have to take bottled water into work. The kitchen is filthy so I'd rather take my own = practical

JaneJudge why not take your own Chilly bottle of tap water?

There is no way I'd drink the water which comes out of my tap without filtering it first. It contains sand, which the water board is doing nothing about.

I’ve had a water filter for years - keep it in the fridge.

growstuff Wed 27-Oct-21 23:59:01

MayBeMaw

growstuff

MayBeMaw

I am not retired and have to take bottled water into work. The kitchen is filthy so I'd rather take my own = practical

JaneJudge why not take your own Chilly bottle of tap water?

There is no way I'd drink the water which comes out of my tap without filtering it first. It contains sand, which the water board is doing nothing about.

I’ve had a water filter for years - keep it in the fridge.

So have I! What's your point? Mine is that I wouldn't drink the water which comes out of my tap without filtering it first. It tastes horrible anyway. I do buy bottled water in case I need more than my filter will hold or I run out of filters. Those posters with drinkable tap water don't realise how lucky they are.

growstuff Thu 28-Oct-21 00:00:15

Teacheranne

Petera

MerylStreep

You claim to be an environmentalist. I would think that you might be pleased that these plastic bottles won’t be coming to the uk.
Personally I’m over the moon ??? ?

Quite right; much better to use our own plastic bottles for our own mineral water instead.

No Petera. Much better to drink tap water than buy any brand of bottled water.

Not if it has sand in it.

Fadingrose Thu 28-Oct-21 00:02:46

How lovely that you can afford a water filter though...

growstuff Thu 28-Oct-21 00:04:53

Fadingrose

How lovely that you can afford a water filter though...

It was about £10. It's the filters which are expensive.

Never mind! I don't drink alcohol, which seems to be the favourite beverage of many on GN, so I save pounds.

MayBeMaw Thu 28-Oct-21 05:10:36

Fadingrose

How lovely that you can afford a water filter though...

This one -at the time it was half price on Ocado . So as Gtowstuff says, about £10.
You can buy a lot of plastic bottles of water for that and I think quite affordable.

growstuff Thu 28-Oct-21 05:28:29

It saves money on kettle descaler too, if you live in a very hard water area (with the addition of sand!)

Zoejory Thu 28-Oct-21 05:37:49

Ah yes, relative of mine has sandy water. Filters should be supplied by water boards. I am indeed fortunate to live in an area with gorgeous clean water. And how lucky are we. My mother's neighbour works for the charity Water Aid and regularly goes to Africa. Some of the horrors they have to deal with are horrendous.

growstuff Thu 28-Oct-21 05:42:56

Somebody needs to tell Affinity Water that filters should be supplied. Additionally, we used to have our water softened, but the equipment reached the end of its life and AW claims it's not their job to soften water. When I visit friends in different parts of the country, I really can taste the difference.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Oct-21 07:16:52

MayBeMaw

Growstuff nobody is arguing against adequate hydration.
However it is perfectly possible to drink (tap) water out of a glass with meals or whenever without clutching a plastic bottle at all times.

Yes of course it is.

But it is all about choice isn’t it? Your neighbour may drink bottled water, you may drink wine, I may drink tea.
Why on earth does it matter?

Of course Champagne has just got cheaper so that’s ok then.

vegansrock Thu 28-Oct-21 07:24:41

I’m going to have to stockpile San Pellegrino ( can get it in glass bottles btw). Funny they aren’t banning foreign wine etc. Hypocrites.

Petera Thu 28-Oct-21 07:38:32

Teacheranne

Petera

MerylStreep

You claim to be an environmentalist. I would think that you might be pleased that these plastic bottles won’t be coming to the uk.
Personally I’m over the moon ??? ?

Quite right; much better to use our own plastic bottles for our own mineral water instead.

No Petera. Much better to drink tap water than buy any brand of bottled water.

I think you missed some sarcasm there

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Oct-21 07:50:02

Given the supply shortages which are set to get so much worse, it is surprising that some government idiot is doing his bit to make choice even less.

Dear oh dear.

Lincslass Thu 28-Oct-21 07:56:04

MaizieD

It's all a bit petty, isn't it?

But that's fine so long as the chemicals used to keep our drinking water pure keep flowing...

Though I think the younger generations are going to be a bit bereft. They cannot go anywhere without clutching a bottle of water...

The shellfish ban was our own fault entirely for leaving the EU and becoming a third country to which third country rules apply. No unpurified live shellfish from 3rd countries can be imported into the EU. The UK was the EU country that insisted on this rule. The UK is now a third country. What did all you Leavers think you were voting for, FGS?

I can't face the thought of eating UK harvested shellfish now, though...

The thought of eating UK shellfish appals you now. Have you ever only eaten French shellfish then. Shellfish are bottom feeders anyway , that’s why many people won’t eat them.

Lincslass Thu 28-Oct-21 08:02:34

JaneJudge

I don't understand why these companies are not liable for the infrastructure as they are private companies?

were they just rent the sewers etc? If so, why were we being charged on top?

The government sold them off at some point and they are still paying their selves huge bonuses, so what is actually happening??

I am not retired and have to take bottled water into work. The kitchen is filthy so I'd rather take my own = practical

Surely you can use a metal water container and take your own water from your tap. Works kitchens are governed by health and safety and hygiene laws. Why has this been allowed to continue.