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EU pro-hijab campaign pulled

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Urmstongran Wed 03-Nov-21 17:06:26

A European Union-funded campaign promoting the freedom to wear the Muslim headscarf has been shelved after an official complaint from staunchly secular France.

I agree with France on this.
Do you?

greenlady102 Wed 03-Nov-21 20:28:07

kircubbin2000

I don't like seeing them. They immediately make the woman stand out as someone different and in a negative way.. I think in a non Muslim country they should try to fit in .

prejudiced much?

Fernbergien Wed 03-Nov-21 20:40:04

Both a hijab and burka can cause health problems - I have read.

Kali2 Wed 03-Nov-21 20:46:04

greenlady102

Kali2

agreed that the burka should be banned, and any clothing that hides the eyes.

so ban sunglasses then?

nonsense

GrandmaKT Wed 03-Nov-21 20:47:09

greenlady102

kircubbin2000

I don't like seeing them. They immediately make the woman stand out as someone different and in a negative way.. I think in a non Muslim country they should try to fit in .

prejudiced much?

But if I go to a Muslim country, I would be expected to, and would be quite happy to, cover my head/legs/arms. So why is it prejudiced to expect others to conform to our norms when in our country?

Kali2 Wed 03-Nov-21 20:49:57

Fernbergien

Both a hijab and burka can cause health problems - I have read.

how very caring of you ...

nuns also can lack in Vit D

VioletSky Wed 03-Nov-21 21:00:43

GrandmaKT

That's not true, how many go to Turkey lol

My friend has lived in Algeria for several years, short hair, no covering.

Probably some countries or possibly areas in those counties where people might be but I don't think it's expected most places of non Muslims

JaneJudge Wed 03-Nov-21 21:01:19

how could a hijab cause health problems?

Kali2 Wed 03-Nov-21 21:03:32

Covering most of the skin can cause Vitamin D deficiency.

mokryna Wed 03-Nov-21 21:33:10

rosie1959

I think people should be free to wear what they like bit ironic as you are not free to wear a headscarf in France but you have to wear a mask indoors

People are allowed to wear headscarves in France.

Kali2 Wed 03-Nov-21 21:39:02

Not in school, not in any State jobs- even a colourful scarf.
Any student turning up at school with a scarf will be turned away and expelled, same for teachers.

Summerlove Wed 03-Nov-21 21:39:37

kircubbin2000

I don't like seeing them. They immediately make the woman stand out as someone different and in a negative way.. I think in a non Muslim country they should try to fit in .

Why?

SueDonim Wed 03-Nov-21 21:41:07

My DiL is French Muslim. She agrees with the ban on religious coverings in France.

Zoejory Wed 03-Nov-21 21:44:51

I found this article about women in Iran before and after the Islamic Revolution rather sad

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-47032829

Kali2 Wed 03-Nov-21 21:48:23

SueDonim

My DiL is French Muslim. She agrees with the ban on religious coverings in France.

Well she is entitled to feel this way. Even a colourful scarf that leaves the face free? Why?

greenlady102 Wed 03-Nov-21 21:51:26

Zoejory

I found this article about women in Iran before and after the Islamic Revolution rather sad

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-47032829

yes I agree but banning the hijab or even the burqua won't change that

SueDonim Thu 04-Nov-21 00:25:24

Why what? I don’t understand what you’re asking.

Teacheranne Thu 04-Nov-21 00:55:55

Kali2

Not in school, not in any State jobs- even a colourful scarf.
Any student turning up at school with a scarf will be turned away and expelled, same for teachers.

Can they wear a scarf around the neck as decoration? I’m just curious as such scarves are a fashion item I guess.

Summerlove Thu 04-Nov-21 01:02:35

SueDonim

Why what? I don’t understand what you’re asking.

Me?

Asking why it’s viewed in a negative light.

Kali2 Thu 04-Nov-21 08:41:10

SueDonim

Why what? I don’t understand what you’re asking.

Possibly me - about why SueDonim's Dil would object to students wearing a colourful scarf?

Teacheranne, I suppose a scarf round the neck will be OK- as it is forbidden to wear head covering, which is seen as a 'religious symbol'.

JenniferEccles Thu 04-Nov-21 09:54:28

I don’t like them as they all represent a kind of oppression of women, a form of control, therefore there is no comparison whatsoever with headscarves worn by western women.

I agree with the decision made by France.

growstuff Thu 04-Nov-21 10:02:36

JenniferEccles

I don’t like them as they all represent a kind of oppression of women, a form of control, therefore there is no comparison whatsoever with headscarves worn by western women.

I agree with the decision made by France.

What's your opinion of sheitels?

trisher Thu 04-Nov-21 10:11:18

I used to think they were a sign of male oppression until I went to an event when two young women calling themselves the Hijab Sisters spoke about why they wore it and how it was their right to do so. I think some women have considered the matter carefully and it is their choice.
If I lived in France I think I'd be tempted to wear one.

Luckygirl Thu 04-Nov-21 10:11:25

It is about choice really - is the woman wearing what she is wearing by her own choice?

I hate the symbolism that says that women are the work of the devil - here to tempt men (weak men I guess!) - so they must cover up lest the feeble males cannot curb their lust.

It is not the garment itself, but what it signifies - in any religion the message is broadly the same.

Galaxy Thu 04-Nov-21 10:19:54

I am not sure where I stand on this issue but just because some women make a choice to do something doesnt mean it isnt also a means of male oppression. Those two things can occur simultaneously.

maddyone Thu 04-Nov-21 10:47:05

I’m like you Galaxy. I’m not quite sure what I think. I need to have a think about it and come back later.