People blocking Lifeboat Stations.

Five women, one of whom was believed to be pregnant and a girl drowned in the Channel last week. There was a photo of one of then with her fiance in the paper. She was beautiful.

I was reading that empathy is one of the last bits the brain develops in emotional development.

Clearly there are people in the U.K. with arrested development.

Sad.

eazybee

They are 'so-called asylum seekers' because some are economic migrants.
To be given refugee status you have to prove that you were forced to leave your country of origin.
What evidence is required I do not know.

They're still "seeking asylum" though.

They might not get it, but they are "seeking" it.

BlueBelle

Really jackiest I have no intention of giving over what a disgrace some people are and if you don’t think that I feel sorry for you
I expected nothing different from you JenniferEccles have you seen how people are treated in the French camps besides that they may have family here and speak the language U.K. has been looked on as being humanitarian so that’s what they see
No one wins the jackpot coming here they often are stuck in detention centres for months or more in nit good conditions
Open your eyes and open your hearts it could be you one day knocking on someone’s door let’s hope they shut it in your face
Let’s swap some refugees for some of our work shy individuals we can throw some home grown murderers and child abusers in if you want

Can we also swap some immigrant murderers and the women who trafficked young women as sex slaves , yes let’s do a swap for all those you judge as Worksheet. Typical left wing drivel.

Work shy, bloody safari.

Man's inhumanity to man.

Granniesunite

Man's inhumanity to man.

A few inhumane women, too, having read this thread...

17:17Granniesunite

Yes very true, tell that to the people smugglers who threatened to shoot the girl who downed in French waters because she didn't want to get onto the flimsy dinghy. Was she an asylum seeker I don't think so she trying to get here to be with her fiance, how very sad.

Lucca

“ They put up a banner that read “Exit the 1951 UN Refugee Convention now. It’s OK to preserve white nations”.”

That is utterly hideous.

Some very inhumane women here indeed - and none of them have come to say that those banners were sick and so wrong. Why would they not? Does it mean, as I increasingly feel is the case, that they support those actions.

The whole world is watching- it may be just a few right wing extremists- but the world is watching, and judging, accordingly.

Left Wing drivel, one says. I can tell you one thing, I am not even 'left wing' whatever that means- but I am sure proud that I am not a right wing facist.

Yes it is disgusting and they should be arrested.

The legality of saving life should not be compared to the illegality of concealing illegal immigrants in your lorry.

The lifeboatmen are not doing anything like the same thing as the lorry drivers who choose to bring in people who pay for their illegal journey.
Lorry drivers are in no physical danger and they are wellpaid for risking arrest. Lifeboatmen go out in all weathers, unpaid, risking their lives, to rescue "those in peril on the sea". Without that aid, the travellers whoever they are would not survive without their help. Leaving them to drown would be the equivallent of throwing them overboard and watching them disappear beneath the waves.

This is supposed to be a Christian country, but you don't have to profess Christianity to agree with what Jesus said, when jobsworths tried to trip him up by asking "“Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?” just so that they could accuse him of breaking the religious laws against working on the day of rest. "He said to them, “Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

It is lawful to save a life on any day of the week, and whoever's life is saved. Even murderers lives are not legally taken from them.

Why is that deemed as fair when the lifeboats are doing the same?

Seriously? They, the RNLI, are not doing the same thing. Their mandate is to rescue anyone in danger in the sea. Why would they exclude migrants? Do you really expect them to just look on and leave them to drown... maybe shout something like "not my problem mate"?

The real issue is Immigration. THAT is what we should be dealing with, not expecting a rescue crew dedicated to saving lives to make political decisions about who they should or shouldn't rescue.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Oops - wrong thread, sorry.

Maudi

17:17Granniesunite

Yes very true, tell that to the people smugglers who threatened to shoot the girl who downed in French waters because she didn't want to get onto the flimsy dinghy. Was she an asylum seeker I don't think so she trying to get here to be with her fiance, how very sad.

Do you actually know what an asylum seeker is?

How do you know she wasn't being persecuted?

eazybee

They are 'so-called asylum seekers' because some are economic migrants.
To be given refugee status you have to prove that you were forced to leave your country of origin.
What evidence is required I do not know.

No! Wrong! They are asylum seekers if they seek asylum. The definition isn't difficult to understand.

Do you have any idea how Iraqi Kurds are treated by the Baghdad government?

growstuff

Do you have any idea how Iraqi Kurds are treated by the Baghdad government?

Or how the Turkish government treats the Kurdish population there?

The Kurds are a people without a country, persecuted as were the Armenian Christians.

One of the asylum seekers recently was working for the British as I understand it.

The government still has not made arrangements for those Afghans who worked on their behalf and they are fearful for themselves and their families. They have every right to seek asylum here and the only way is to be here!

And for anyone still calling the RNLI a taxi service for illegals can I remind you that this month sees the 40th anniversary of the Penlee disaster. These men are not a "Taxi Service"

Gaga Jo. Sound as selfish as the "asylum seekers" who are determined to access our welfare system by not obeying the rules and entering the country without permission! No problem with people who fill in forms and arrive here openly and don't break rules even as they arrive.

LilyoftheValley

Gaga Jo. Sound as selfish as the "asylum seekers" who are determined to access our welfare system by not obeying the rules and entering the country without permission! No problem with people who fill in forms and arrive here openly and don't break rules even as they arrive.

You really do have a problem with understanding!

Why did you put asylum seekers in inverted commas? Anybody is entitled under international law to come to the UK and claim asylum. They do not need permission to enter the country.

People who claim asylum have not broken any rules. They have followed international law. It really isn't difficult to understand.

Deedaa

And for anyone still calling the RNLI a taxi service for illegals can I remind you that this month sees the 40th anniversary of the Penlee disaster. These men are not a "Taxi Service"

And can I also remind people that asylum seekers are not "illegals". They are legally entitled to come to the UK and claim asylum.

Deedaa

And for anyone still calling the RNLI a taxi service for illegals can I remind you that this month sees the 40th anniversary of the Penlee disaster. These men are not a "Taxi Service"

These days, the RNLI crews rarely save ships genuinely "in peril on the sea". Most rescues involve pleasure boats crewed by people who didn't check the tides or weather conditions or swimmers swept away from the coast or recovering the bodies of people who have committed suicide.

By rescuing asylum seekers, they are genuinely saving lives, which is what they sign up for. Lifeboatmen are above politics.

By the way LilyoftheValley, asylum seekers are not entitled to access our welfare system.

Someone on Dungeness said that they were called out numerous times one day.

Heroes every one of them..