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So, if you don't like Boris......

(262 Posts)
kittylester Sun 12-Dec-21 08:49:18

who would you like to replace him - from either side?

Or is he the best of a bad bunch?

Luckygirl3 Mon 13-Dec-21 17:35:52

I'm with Boris he's being sabotaged by the press ... I've heard it all now!!

Pammie1 Mon 13-Dec-21 17:40:08

If it absolutely has to be a Tory, then Rory Stewart, if not then realistically, Keir Starmer. Personally I’d give Ed Balls the job - seems committed and compassionate.

Alegrias1 Mon 13-Dec-21 17:43:09

Chocolatelovinggran

Algegrias - I am sorry if my sense of humour offends you .
GreenGran78- I agree, but, sadly, we don't seem to breed politicians like Bessie Braddock these days, do we?

Not offended.

But your apology is accepted.

Daisend1 Mon 13-Dec-21 17:52:57

kittylester
In answer to your question,and with my view of once a tory always a tory WITH great difficulty.

Mollygo Mon 13-Dec-21 20:39:00

Andy Burnham got things done. I’d vote for him.
Jacinda Ardern would never cope with the UK ‘you can’t make me’ cohort.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Dec-21 20:53:44

“Many people pointing out that it's all very well to want rid of Johnson, but the candidates for succession aren't exactly comforting. Remember how we wanted Hancock gone? And look who we ended up with. It all goes to show how talentless this awful Vote Leave cabal really is.”

Twitter

Lucca Mon 13-Dec-21 22:26:29

Calistemon

Granartisan

I really believe that the government should have formed a coalition to deal with covid. There is no place for party politics in a crisis.

I agree

We said this from the start

Lucca Mon 13-Dec-21 22:28:02

Elvis58

None of the present bunch.Would not waste my shoe leather voting at all!

Is that because you “vote with your feet “?

Bonneygran Mon 13-Dec-21 22:46:54

Nicola Sturgeon impresses me beyond many politicians, not least because I love her suits and certainly because of her common sense!

sazz1 Mon 13-Dec-21 23:05:23

Kier Starmer was head of the CPS when several allegations against Jimmy Saville were ignored by the CPS. But it was not his decision allegedly. No I wouldn't prefer him

MayBee70 Mon 13-Dec-21 23:07:07

He also did a lot of good work in N Ireland and in the Stephen Lawrence case I believe but, hey, let’s forget about that shall we?

GillT57 Mon 13-Dec-21 23:44:23

sazz1

Kier Starmer was head of the CPS when several allegations against Jimmy Saville were ignored by the CPS. But it was not his decision allegedly. No I wouldn't prefer him

Sigh

Harmonypuss Tue 14-Dec-21 15:17:17

Imo a 5yr old could make a better job of it!

MaizieD Tue 14-Dec-21 15:35:29

MayBee70

He also did a lot of good work in N Ireland and in the Stephen Lawrence case I believe but, hey, let’s forget about that shall we?

Well, the only thing Blair did was to embroil us in the Iraq war...

We'll forget about everything else grin

MayBee70 Tue 14-Dec-21 15:38:58

I believe there was a BBC programme about Stephen Lawrence recently but Keirs involvement was omitted. Don’t want to educate people in the good that he has done over the years: a lot of it without payment I think.

Kali2 Tue 14-Dec-21 17:57:17

From Marina Hyde today in the Guardian

''The main problem, obviously, is the fact that these deadly serious briefings are fronted by the little prime minister who cried wolf. Johnson is such a noted liar about absolutely everything else that being asked to believe him on matters of life and death seems bizarre. No one could be more miscast; *it’s like watching a rice pudding play King Lear. *Unsurprisingly, fewer and fewer people seem to be taking him seriously each time – not least, his own backbenchers.''

talk about 'charisma' - a rice pudding palying King Lear, indeed.

Urmstongran Tue 14-Dec-21 18:06:28

Seem a copycat comment from the Twitter ones last night that called Keir Starmer a blancmange (as MissA pointed out).

Kali2 Tue 14-Dec-21 18:21:29

I don't mind a blancmange with intelligence, calm, composure, clear thinking and more

- but since some of you think charisma is so so important- the comment is more apt in this case, methinks.

Lucca Tue 14-Dec-21 18:35:26

Just a couple of definitions of charisma……. Sorry but by no stretch of the imagination can they be applied to Boris Johnson.

Calistemon Tue 14-Dec-21 19:07:32

compelling attractiveness
?

I like blancmange, a pity it's not fashionable.

Casdon Tue 14-Dec-21 19:37:06

Compelling attractiveness definition as Lucca posted - I’m thinking more along the lines of Richard Burton. To be fair though, he would have been a rubbish politician.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 19:40:22

Tory MP said that Johnson was told at the 1922 meeting that he has until the summer to try to improve things.

timesaretight Tue 14-Dec-21 19:54:29

Micky Mouse

MayBee70 Tue 14-Dec-21 20:08:37

Who’s in the 1922 committee? Are they the same ones that are in the ERG and the CRG? Need to know if they’re running the country…

Anniel Tue 14-Dec-21 20:41:02

Every Tory is wondering! Boris is an ideas man poor at detail. He has surrounded himself with young inexperienced advisors instead of people who can tell him straight when he is wrong. Some of you will not like it but i feel that Carrie Johnson is exerting too much influence. I will not go into details but she is very ambitious and quite unpopular with many Tories. I hear he is about to get a very hard nosed chief advisor rather like Lynton Crosbie. He definitely needs someone tough. If he can pull his head in he may get through the current mess. There is time before the next general election. None of the politicians in main parties impress me with their calibre. And that is a problem! There are no outstanding MPs at present!