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Politics: I stand by my freedom and right not to wear a mask, but I will vote to get rid of the Human Rights Act.

(42 Posts)
Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 10:18:08

What is that about? Doesn’t make sense.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 15:42:42

MayBee70

Peter Bottomley seems to be another old school honourable Conservative. Speaking in parliament now.

I think that he represents my sons constituency, not that son votes for him?

Coastpath Tue 14-Dec-21 15:42:44

FarNorth

I'd guess that people voting for freedoms to be removed are those who normally do what they like and can't imagine that changing.

I think you're right FarNorth.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 15:54:49

“Wes Streeting making a more persuasive argument for govt position on vaccines than Sajid Javid”

Crace

Labour supporting the nation by doing the government’s job for them.

poshpaws Tue 14-Dec-21 16:21:05

Whitewavemark2

What is that about? Doesn’t make sense.

Don't worry about feeling confused: you're entirely right. It doesn't make sense. Most of them have a screw loose.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 16:50:36

poshpaws

Whitewavemark2

What is that about? Doesn’t make sense.

Don't worry about feeling confused: you're entirely right. It doesn't make sense. Most of them have a screw loose.

Quite

varian Tue 14-Dec-21 17:08:41

It seems that the right wing of politics has a liking for contradictory opinions. "It's my human right not to be jabbed/ wear a mask/ obey any rules" - whilst enthusiastically supporting the abolition of the Human Rights Act.

It's the same in the USA where the "pro-lifers" who want to ban abortion even in the most extreme circumstances, are also very enthusiastic about everyone to have the freedom to carry a high grade military weapon for the express purpose of killing people.

Recently a teenager was acquitted after shooting three people and killing two of them. I could not believe it when I heard a Trump supporter defend him on the basis that someone else had shot eleven people and got off - and they are all "pro-life"!!!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59358172

JaneJudge Tue 14-Dec-21 17:14:17

I don't think people realise how the coronavirus act took away disabled peoples human rights, which were hard fought sad

Allsorts Tue 14-Dec-21 17:57:39

I really don’t understand what they want.
Ellen, if you are still very ill after adverse reaction to the first vaccine, no one would have any problem with that it must be dreadful, I was unwell for a week, but got better, so if you’re one of the rare people to have an allergic reaction people would more than understand. What people get upset about are those that choose not to be vaccinated whilst enjoying being able to go out and about, albeit with masks, because the rest of us have had the vaccine so we can enjoy the freedom we do have.

Grandmagrim Tue 14-Dec-21 19:25:32

They mean they believe in their freedom but not in ours.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 19:31:25

What is worrying me as I watch the Tory rebellion over the new measures, is what Johnson will do, should (god forbid) the whole situation become very much worse.

One Tory seemed to indicate that they have drawn a line in the sand. Will this prevent the government bringing in further necessary measures?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 20:02:26

Johnson looks very likely to have to depend on the opposition to help him get further measures. Not a good position for him to be in.

Caleo Thu 16-Dec-21 14:35:46

People who don't cover their faces are so impolite! It;s bad enough refusing to wash their hands when told to do so, now they spill their viral breaths into the spaces we all have to use.

varian Thu 16-Dec-21 18:16:10

It is worse than impolite.

It says to the world "I don't care about infecting anyone else"

Nandalot Thu 16-Dec-21 18:39:13

Re the OP and contradictory views held by some Tory MP’s about one’s personal freedom not to wear a mask and yet their desire to bring in changes to the Human Rights Act which would curtail many freedoms, a similar dichotomy exists between some of these same MP’s reluctance about Covid passports and yet thought it might be a good idea to have voter id.

MayBee70 Thu 16-Dec-21 21:50:44

Absolutely

trisher Thu 16-Dec-21 22:06:42

"It's absolutely simple, the right not to wear a mask is personal and of course my personal freedom matters. The Human Rights Act protects other people (and the sort of people I don't like) So I can vote for both" - A.N.Other Tory MP.